I’d be more interested if they added some sort of electronic warfare/datalink stuff to the game, like the jamming pods. Gripens are supposedly very good at that stuff. Could make the Gripen C pretty dangerous
I doubt that is their concern. More likely its the number of hard-points and flight performance. Quite frankly, the differences in RCS likely wont be modeled
Yeah, we needed ECMs a year ago. Tornado as well would beenfit greatly from them. But yeah, the ECM on the deltas are actually very good. I’ve read a thing where F-22s had a really hard time getting a lock on German Typhoons in a Dogfight because of them
I can see it happening, would be a nice way to balance the small agile fighters to the gigantic missile buses? Wouldn’t be too hard to implement I think
Eurofighter does
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Not.
Oh, btw @CorporalApollo the JAS 39 changes are in datamine. They’re coming this week, and the drag reduction is about 15.9%.
Can check all the changes here;
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Forget flight model changes. They need to delete the radar and start again, its so buggy, its almost unusable. Dozens of ghosts targets. TWS just stops tracking changes to an entirely different target, and targets not even showing up. I was point my nose at a Su-27, at alt, with ACM PD on and nothing, couldnt see it at all.
Turn it off and turn it back on again?
Does nothing. Ghost targets remain and doesnt help when the radar shows no contacts at all. Just feels a buggy mess at the moment. Actually almost makes the Gripen C unplayable in SB currently
Well that sucks, do you have a report open?
It also gained drag to in some aspects unless I’m having brain fart
Drag & thrust reduced in areas, thrust increased in other areas.
Roughly a 16% decrease in drag?
That should be a huge difference, right? Isn’t drag exponential with higher speed, therefore thrust needs to be even higher to overcome it?
With that amount of decreased drag it runs the risk of actually going to fast, is it not?
Dude my friend has had those same issues with ghost targets, I don’t have the issues on PS5. He says top tier is unplayable right now. Maybe the two of you could make a bug report?
I have those regular radar bugs that forces you to restart radar, but my friends bug is even worse and it doesn’t fix it
Thank you, I’ll check it out
For the ghost contacts, yeah, as for the rest of it. I have no idea where to begin. But the radar feels totally unfinished, which is pretty normal for most aircraft, usually takes 3-9 months before radars are actually working for aircraft
F3 sea Harrier cough cough
I don’t know, check out Oshida’s explanation of the changes and the thrust values;
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/18scpgw/datamine_233048_233054/
Thrust changes according to Oshida: (I did the % changes)
0m alt
Spoiler
- At 0 km/h from 7500 kgf to 8080 kgf
** 7.7% increase - At 250 km/h from 7320 kgf to 8040 kgf
** 9.8% increase - At 500 km/h from 7780 kgf to 8200 kgf
** 5.8% increase - At 750 km/h from 8950 kgf to 8840 kgf
** 1.2% decrease - At 1000 km/h from 10125 kgf to 9140 kgf
** 9.7% decrease - At 1250 km/h from 10900 kgf to 8940 kgf
** 17.9% decrease - At 1500 km/h from 10800 kgf to 8050 kgf
** 25.4% decrease - At 1750 km/h from 9800 kgf to 8070 kgf
** 17.6% decrease - At 2000 km/h from 9030 kgf to 8090 kgf
**10.4% decrease
3000m alt
Spoiler
- At 250 km/h from 6370 kgf to 6700 kgf
** 5.1% increase - At 500 km/h from 6580 kgf to 6880 kgf
** 4.5% increase - At 750 km/h from 7250 kgf to 7100 kgf
** 2% decrease - At 1000 km/h from 8110 kgf to 7820 kgf
** 3.5% decrease - At 1250 km/h from 8900 kgf to 8840 kgf
** 0.6% decrease - At 1500 km/h from 9500 kgf to 8830 kgf
** 7% decrease - At 1750 km/h from 9600 kgf to 8700 kgf
** 9.4% decrease - At 2000 km/h from 9250 kgf to 8550 kgf
** 7.5% decrease
Biggest changes are going to be the low altitude high speed performance. RideR2 will likely do another test of the sustained turn rate when the changes are live. We can then review the changes for 30 minutes fuel, sea level sustained turn rate performance.
I did some tests of acceleration at sea level
Do you think sustained will be heavily affected by these changes? @MiG_23M
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There are also these changes from Oshida’s datamine. I found this format a little easier to read instead of going to reddit and stuff.
Spoiler
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Autopilot max overload rate adjustment
- From [-5, 13] to [-5, 16]
- Will reach peak G slightly slower in a pull
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Fuselage
- Coefficient of drag Mach multiplier curve coefficient max from 2.45 to 2.25
- Lower drag multiplier from M0.92 to M1.05
- Zero-lift drag coefficient reduction from 0.0061 to 0.0044
- Overall less drag
- Coefficient of drag Mach multiplier curve coefficient max from 2.45 to 2.25
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Wing with flaps out
- Oswald’s efficiency number increased from 0.52 to 0.53
- This will mean a very slightly lower coefficient of drag depending on AoA, increasing overall turn
- Coefficient of drag Mach multiplier curve adjustments
- Critical Mach number from 0.9 to 0.92
- Coefficient max value from 1.6 to 1.55
- Multiplier will begin applying a tad bit later at M0.92 and overall have a bit less drag from M0.92 to M1.03 than previously
- Induced drag Mach multiplier curve adjustments
- Critical Mach number from 0.3 to 0.25
- Coefficient max value from 0.88 to 0.78
- Oswald’s efficiency number increased from 0.52 to 0.53
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Multiplier will begin applying from M0.25 instead of M0.3 and overall will have slightly more induced drag from M0.25 to M0.6
- Zero-lift drag coefficient reduction from 0.021 to 0.018
- Overall less drag
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Wing
- Oswald’s efficiency number increased from 0.52 to 0.53
- This will mean a very slightly lower coefficient of drag depending on AoA, increasing overall turn
- Coefficient of drag Mach multiplier curve adjustments
- Critical Mach number from 0.9 to 0.92
- Coefficient max value from 1.6 to 1.55
- Multiplier will begin applying a tad bit later at M0.92 and overall have a bit less drag from M0.92 to M1.03 than previously
- Induced drag Mach multiplier curve adjustments
- Critical Mach number from 0.3 to 0.25
- Coefficient max value from 0.88 to 0.78
- Multiplier will begin applying from M0.25 instead of M0.3 and overall will have slightly more induced drag from M0.25 to M0.6
- Zero-lift drag coefficient reduction from 0.008 to 0.0068
- Overall less drag
- Oswald’s efficiency number increased from 0.52 to 0.53