SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

These are press releases from “Gripen News” from 2006. The link to the story actually takes you to the Saab website but to recover the article requires Wayback Machine.

So Eungland’s claims are entirely fabricated.

1.Gripen was on the Blue side in Red Flag 2006.
2.No nations in attendance use Eurofighter at all.
3.F-22 did not attend a Red Flag until 2007.

The whole entire story about how well Gripen did at Red Flag 2006 is a complete fabrication made 15 years after it happened by a guy who left the Swedish Air Force 15 years before it happened. When Millenium 7 repeats the same claim and adds that only the F-22 scored better…he is repeating something that is made up and adding his own additional details.

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Enabling combat mode does not produce any incredible thrust figures. usually it is 300-350 kgf

delta canard is good in ITR, but mediocre in STR. G-The maximum possible at this speed

For these shows they use all the aircraft’s peacetime capabilities. Only the combat engine thrust mode is not enabled

Features of the aerodynamic design

Can i see the source on that? İm actually curious.

Teething issues with the FBW, all rectified when BAe was brought on to refine the FBW. Its nothing new for aircraft to crash occasionally due to FBW failures. Theres several instances of other aircraft doing it.

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AL-31F3 differs from the basic one in a special mode that adds 300 kgf 12500vs 12800 kgf

Yes i see your point, however i would like to see the source with my own eyes.

İf you have can you share it? Would also like to look into other details.

I can’t share it, but I can describe it. The combat mode increases the temperature range in front of the turbine, as a result of which the mixing temperature in a two-contour engine increases. This means calculation of thrust. Also, due to better fuel combustion, efficiency increases slightly

İs it classified?

İ see your point.

For official use. Not publicly
However, the engine on the Su-33, AL-31F-3 is described in A. Fomin’s book “Су-33 Корабельная Эпопея”
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Doesn’t remotely look like full afterburner from other videos you can see of the Gripen though?

Airshows never show the limits of what the plane can do…

That’s exactly what they do, both for safety and intel reasons. You guys can see he isn’t using full AB and you’re saying he is pushing the plane to limits. Blinded by your own vitriol.

We’ve reached a mythical level of copium that I didn’t think even Soviet players could achieve.

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It was Full AB

Ah OK, I’ll just take your word for it.

🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irJll230E5M&ab_channel=JesperR%C3%A5deg%C3%A5rd
With poor ability, the afterburner flame is clearly visible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYSePB7rkBQ&ab_channel=The.ChangeInTime
Takeoff, maneuvering everything to the full AB

Yeah. See how that is completely different to your video? In the video you posted, the only time you see any kind of flames is when the camera is looking directly into the exhaust nozzle.

We’ve reached the level where the soviet-players are taking airshow clips as evidence for trying to nerf non-soviet planes. Amazing.

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Well thats certainly raises the bar, never thought i see this day coming.

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Take off F-15 day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQZvswq_XN0&ab_channel=USAMilitaryChannel
Night
https://youtu.be/L5mJxY4Uj6Y?si=NZ4KNOLUywpEvgp7&t=240
MiG-29K take off day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMcqV_Pjorc&ab_channel=RumbleViral

I wouldn’t call anyone stupid after attempting whatever it was you just did.

You realise there is a difference between afterburner levels, right? It’s isn’t an On/Off switch like how GJN models it. Hence why you stating it is full afterburner from a youtube video filmed on someone’s phone, makes you look exceptionally clever.

Seeing as the Russian-players now think video sources are OK, I wonder how many nerfs to soviet vehicles we can achieve with YouTube vids from a non-recent special military operation in a land far far away.

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They do have visible different levels of afterburner in game but its just is after burner 101% or 110%