SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

that a shame
People get too mad over a game

I think they’ve made it quite evident they do not.

Bold statement for someone who can’t even read the thrust to weight tables on the WT wiki correctly.

Honestly quite like this reply

It also is conveniently quite accurate

That’s fair. For what it’s worth, I read your posts as made in good faith, and don’t think you have some hidden agenda or anything. I think you argue in a constructive and factual way. I do not always agree with your conclusions, or see why they are manifestly true in the case where you just assert something.

I do think that WT has a million inaccuracies, and since one can’t attend to them all, one has to chose the harmful or obvious ones to go write bug reports about. Sweden and UK getting a competitive plane at top tier for once is not one of those things.

I also saw that last year you attempted to get Vikhr buffed. To spend your time doing that is just baffling to me, not because i dont think weapons should be realistic, but because in the situation where you can’t fix everything, choosing to try to make ka50 stronger is objectively detrimental to the game.

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Does anybody knows if you can mount amraams on wingtip stations on gripen? I couldnt find charts with it there, neither photos. When fox3 patch comes, it will be indirect nerf to the gripen itself as long as you want to run aim120 if it cant be mounted on bol.

No.

Aim-120 can be mounted on BOL. Second message in this topic

Lol got a link to this? I’d love to see what his argument was.

oh nice, thank you

I’m more interested in whether the gripen can hang anything instead of a fuel tank on centre pylon

I wonder if anyone else noticed its engine temp and if it was discussed, its pretty much same on mil and ab.

Bombs irl

I couldn’t find any pictures

It can, but GJN won’t let it.

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Bomb

Hm, interesting, wait in game, maybe will be 3 GBU-24)

There are actually quite a few bug reports I was asked to make, rather than gone out of my way to make them myself. You’ll notice the first report I did on the F-15 was to buff the sustained turn at low speeds… because there was a discrepancy.

Likewise, my report to fix the overly high temperatures of the F-15 and F-16 engines was turned down.

I have made several reports that resulted in major buffs for French aircraft like the Mirage 2000, I was also the person who suggested the Ouragan be added to the game in 2013, which was later added.

I’ve put in reports that would buff the APG-66, AIM-54, I fixed the F-14’s lacking AoA, I have an active report that will buff flare resistance on the AIM-9L/M… I nerfed the engine temperatures on the MiG-21 and MiG-23 series aircraft…

But you’re focusing on a discrepancy I reported with the Vikhir?

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I hope you just mean 9L… because if you mean buff flare resistance on 9M… just why
not even for realism at this point just for the sake of the game being enjoyable…

Yes. Because that thing was once upon a time ludicrous. It doesn’t need a buff and for the foreseeable will never need one.

For the sake of people enjoying the game… why???
You aren’t obliged to bug report these things… people accept when they play this game that not everything will be perfect. If you want perfectionism and realism there is IL-2, DCS, Prepar3D (if that is within your budget and capability to run)

Because both are underperforming?

AIM-9L/M when fired from rear aspect should not be decoyed by flares when chasing an afterburner plume… Like at all

I mean, technically if 9L is buffed, 9M is too considering they kinda share very similar seeker to the point its like same thing where 9M primarily employs circuit board as means of IRCCM instead of physical changes in seeker. Lets hope it wont pass, sometimes 9M can be really nasty at range. Its turning off its seeker in rear aspect shot can be really annoying though. It starts to jump around and lose absurd ammount of energy.

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I understand precisely what you’re saying when you say “they’re underperforming”

Just, most people don’t exactly enjoy being slammed by an unflarable undodgeable undecoyable missile 2 minutes into the game.

Most people, for example, do not want to see a T-72B get 2 kills and then evaporate half their team in planes helis and tanks with a Ka-50. for example…

We’re not even on about realism this is about making the game vaguely fair and enjoyable for all. The Gripen, which centrepiece of this whole mess, is exceptionally good in Close Combat at the cost of being near useless in any sort of BVR.