SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

they’re on the top side;

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Thanks

Gripen NG.

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But on serial E’s I cant find this MAWSU

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Maybe improved design

i don’t think there are any pictures of the serial gripen as there is only one at the moment.
but we have this video of the first serial E version:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voq1zIt8BLA

where those sensors are present.

Edit:
Clarification, Swedish serial E, and most of the sensors on NG, not all.
the Brasilian E has been in service for about 2 years, but are also customized for Brazil, they don’t have exactly the same parts.

Got it, thanks for the clarification

i’m a bit sad to see this thread die so i’m going to bump it a bit with some information i don’t think i’ve seen here.
i was looking at ammunition for Swedish vehicles just to see if there were any discrepancies when i stumbled upon this:

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210517043101/https://hemvarnet.se/UserFiles/Nyheter/utbildningsgrupper/livgardesgruppen/filer/AMKAT_DATABILD_2014.pdf

So the JAS39 seems to have 4 choices of internal BOP IR-flare sizes

  • 55mm at 0.66kg (660grams) and either one or two colors (visual colors or IR-wavelengths? unclear)
  • 1x1 inch at 0.11kg (110grams) and either one or two colors (visual colors or IR-wavelengths? unclear)

i’m unsure if the ones where the markings are “TP” instead of “JAS” can be used on JAS or not.
The 55mm seams to be multi flare packages as they are labeled “three bodies” (so 0.22kg each meaning 1x2 inch flares?).

Then only one choice for the external BOL IR-flares

  • IR-package 30grams

Then the chaff is divided into three packages for both internal (1x1 inch) BOP and external (perhaps 15kg/320 = 45grams?) BOL

  • Broadband
  • IJ band
  • X Band

further down in the document it shows the flares for helicopters and logistic planes.

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So the next major update is on its way, but I have yet to see discussion or even mention of a JAS-39C variant being added for Sweden anytime soon.

All despite a comment made by Smin in december stating “We’d like to say that we’ll be adding the JAS39C for Sweden in the first major update of 2024.”. With another JAS-39C being added in the game in the Hungarian Sub-tree, I cannot be the only one thinking that Sweden deserves it’s JAS-39C too.

Also I do hope the JAS-39Cs we have in game do get their correct cockpits soon, as they really just seem like slightly improved A variants as of right now.

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Smin stated on the Rumour Round up forum that it was delayed to the june update as it would “not be different enough from the ingame A”.

How very depressing…

Thank you for the information

Yeah it is but at the same time i’d rather it be delayed and added with meaningful differences, which in this case has to be AMRAAM than just a copy pasted version of the A with a different selection of Camos.

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Yea but at the same time Sweden will be the only Gripen user that has to grind entire new plane while British and İtalian mains can simply grind one module to in order to access ARH missiles, not to mention JAS39C does have more large caliber countermeasures and should also have center pylon that can carry additional Gbu’s. Sounds good enough to add with First major uptade but knowing Gaijin they will force Swedish mains to GE that upcoming JAS39C.

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JAS39C Gripen from Swedish equipped 3rd generation FLIR and laser designator pods Rafael Litening III and fitted PS-05/A Mk.3 radar like JAS39C for HuAF & SAAF but currently gajin not implemented change yet

I think gajin would add JAS39C Gripen with PS-05/A Mk.3 radar after JAS39A to 2nd major update in summer

Most likely considering they are planning to add ARH missiles with 2bd majör uptade.

I wonder if maybe they’re saving the Swedish Gripen C for modern IR missiles?

The Gripen A also carried AMRAAM IRL. They could just give JAS 39A Fox 3’s and save JAS 39C for Iris-T update for the future…

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yeah i don’t think they are doing that

Meteor and IRIS-T when?

I’m quite worried gajin forgot change FLIR and laser designator pods on HuAF & SAAF JAS39C Gripen from Litening II to Litening III in the future

I guess gajin may carry out IRIS-T replace Rb.74 (M) for swedish JAS39C with increase to 13.0 BR after summer major update

In fact JAS39C from SAAF access 5th gen IR AAM only but never use R-Darter BVRAAM ?

Yea it never used any Fox-3 missiles in real life.

it was apparently cleared for R darter just never did due to R darter being retired

Which proves my point that it never carried during its service life.