SAAB JAS 39E/F Gripen - General discussion

that has nothing to do with Saab exaggerating standard data buses that have been around for decades, dont try to shift the topic

it is the same as other jets, just because they are more open to helping integrate weapons to sweeten the deal since their jet sucks doesnt mean they should get special treatment.

like ron said, the MiG-29SMT also has MIL-STD-1553 offered, that doesnt mean it should be running JDAMs and AIM-120C’s

It has everything to do with the fact your position ignores the additional information in the sentence you chose to cut off halfway through. Gripen incorporates a standard data layer to communicate with munitions and SAAB provides support to make sure that happens.

But you’re going to insist as you did halfway through my writing this that it’s because “Gripen bad” in spite of being a competitive platform to European capstones, and exceeding present American offerings significantly.

that means nothing until after it actually happens. go tell saab to integrate and clear whatever munitions you want

What is this table?

Canada’s department of defense evaluation of F-35 and Gripen E in 2021 competition

Ahh hard to trust the US though especially the past few months. I left a major defense contractor recently and the atmosphere was not good. You have to have your heart in it and I just couldn’t in good conscience continue. I only feel somewhat bad as I was the primary integrator for some systems and cable technician on the team.

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if you want to talk about other things in procurement, sure, but as far as performance is concerned there is a clear cut winner

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It’s just a shitty position given that the same country selling it is also posturing to annex your nation and actively engaging in trade warfare. That’s not a mistake I would want to follow me if something were to happen. Lockheed does have something good on their hands but it looks like a situation of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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I’m not at all certain on this but wasn’t the data in that offer proven to have been tampered with in some way semi recently?

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It was, I know Max Villman spoke about it. Gripen was given a HEAFTY penalty for not yet being in service at the time of evaluation.

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peak

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No, that would be wild. I just made a comparison that’s easy to understand - a metaphor if you like :)

The video where Max is talking about the valuation score is this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yI4r1bslA8&t=356s I don’t have instagram/x but there he explain it in english in a post. o7

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RBS 15 still seems to be abysmal.
MAWS still doesn’t work.

Nuke thunder is in play now. Might give it a shot later with the Gripen E and see how it goes

Much the same as last time, except now you’re contesting both player and ai missiles from the runway. RBS15 is nonfunctional for the mode, and spices are locked to a forward lock aspect in third person which proves problematic in a number of instances. Spice also disrespects target point designations much of the time in third person, but will chase radar locks. Half the time it doesn’t even bother to track.

It was for the jas 39c
Not the E

Weird with point lock I was hitting SAM sites 90km away.

I was having a time of getting it to lock anything at all.

I figured as such.

Hoping Sweden could procure some ARMs soon as it was mentioned at some point within the near future. Either that or having longer ranged missiles.

Otherwise I’d rather take the fresh air of a new mode than stuck playing air RB for the past….however many years.

Or y’know. Be granted ESM, so the method primarily employed can be utilised. It would provide a stepping stone solution that isn’t even inaccurate.

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