Lmao, seems you’ve never played them if you think that the Alpha’s also they are 8.7 in ARB. The alphas are at that BR because they actually have some pretty good handling, they don’t compress they turn very well and while they don’t have the greatest weapons they make up for it in flight performance. Though the acceleration and top speed leaves a lot to be desired. The gun changes between the two are also weird cause the 27mm imo is better for ground but the 30mm for air. Regardless they are better fighters. The weaponry changes happened to other nations so dont try thinking its some big conspiracy lol, that just cuts down your credibility in your argument. The reason the 105 sits at 8.3 is because its a mid aircraft. It does okay for ground but its not the most versatile multi role. Normally when i see players complain about them its because they’ve never played them and or don’t take the time to engage them and try to learn how to counter them.
I mean sure, I can take that opinion too.
Yes the alphas I’ve played a decent bit, the A that is, the german one I’m going to soon ( and they worked very, very well for me anyway.)
Tho I can agree, you’re right for the air part about the 105, the one thing saving them really is the airspawn.
In ground tho I believe my point still stands, the equipment of the 105s at 8.3 is probably just the best for any plane at that BR and can be a tad bit of a menace there ( i meant with the help of ccip which almost none, if any, planes at that br get).
The problem with the argument of 8.3 is who is actually plsying the 105 at 8.3 and not 8.7? The lineup for 8.3 just doesnt exist. I could care less if gaijin moved it up. The problem is its a sub par chassis for dealing with other aircraft. Honestly the only reason it sits so low was because its the 7.0 SK60 but with new engines and more weapons. So same trashy aircraft but carried by the ngine buff and the armament. Let me tell you if a su 11 pops up youve gotta be careful, one wrong turn and your dead fighting him. In my alpha i have no problems. Also the gunpod cuts your turn time and speed down dramatically.
the alpha jet is well balanced, I see no issues with 9.0
agreed, very strong vehicle which is undertiered. just an swedish sigma jet at α lower br, 8.7 and rank 6 would be good
My 105’s have none of the traits you mention - how do I get one of those ones??
Naaah that’s extremely anti-Warthunder terminology, but yeah screw the Saab-105 that thing’s undertired af.
Lol
ngl I think that SAAB-105 players just don’t know what they’re doing. I use the AV-8C at 11.3 alot and fair very well against getting shot down without using countermeasures. Although I don’t think SAAB gets RWR.
Saab doesnt get rwr, also its not av8 fast, i get your comparison but its not really equal.
Ye but Saab is also at far lower BR where it doesn’t face nearly powerful SPAA. if AV-8C can be effective CAS without any guided munitions fighting 2S6s and Pantsirs, then SAAB certainly shouldn’t have any issues, even at 9.3
This isnt me trying to be rude but you seem to probably have never played it lol, ive played both and you’re crazy if you think they are on par lol. The difference is one can sit 3km+ away and the other has to gey with 1.5km to hit accurate bombs. Thats well withing my gepard range.
Do they not both have CCIP and CCRP?
A4E has AGM 62 which guides itself accurately. CCRP is only accurate when close to the target. Thats why its a dumb idea to think they are the same BR. Only someone who hasn’t played both would have that mentality.
It only gets 2 walleyes though. A-4E is less risky, but also far less reward, and also is worse at taking down enemy aircraft. As I see it, A-4E only really excells at taking out SPAA from outside their range.
Lmao what? Bad at taking out enemy aircraft? That us a bit of a skill issue, don’t get me wrong it not the best fighter but its better at everything than the 105.
You also forgot the A4E can take the 2000lb bomb and use CCRP and do essentially the same as the saab 105.
Thrust to weight ratio and max speed are near identical, SAAB-105 has better guns and better turning, smaller target, and they both get the same 2 Aim-9Bs. The only advantage the A-4E gets is flares.
Again thats only one 2,000 bomb, and CCRP is FAR less useful than CCIP, especially at a BR facing strelas.
Better guns? Lmao your entire argument is pointless when you have no experience. Maybe you should go play it.
Lol your enrire argument is saying 30mm is weaker than 20mm. You have no experience.