Sometimes I don’t care if a vehicle is blatantly OP and undertiered, but if other nations also feature the same kind of vehicle I’d be ok like with the A-4E that was 8.7 but got moved up BR to 9.3 on ground battles.
Thats the problem not every nation has an equivalent. If we went about moving vehicles based just because they have an ability you’d have a ton of vehicle’s that cant do anything compared to their contemporaries. Do you think the Saab 105 should be the same Br as something like the A4E? 8.7 for ground doesn’t really affect it if it went up since nobody plays sweden at 8.3 for ground, air wise its not OP it doesnt do very well compared to vehicle’s at its BR. I tend to find them also very easy to deal with in ground RB since they still have to get close to the ground to effectively use CCIP. Its weird that i see people (not saying you) think it should be with the A4E considering the differences in what they can do.
Sea hawk on britain is 8.0 without missiles iirc but the german premium version has 4 missiles and is at the same BR. The 105 is pretty mid for air but for CAS its pretty good. Wouldn’t replace A4B since i have CCRP. Tbf i have gotten very good woth CCRP. Enough to say its almost on par withh CCIP. Just requires more preparation and knowledge of vehicle whereabouts on the map.
It only has 2, but your point still stands
My bad, i dont own it though i was interested at one point before just buying the ju 288 since i wanted it for my 6.7 line up, should’ve gone with the do 335 rip lol.
Actually A-4E should be at 8.7 for ground vehicles. Even, as you said and I agree, begin vehicles easy to deal.
From experience the only thing that worth on the A-4E is the TV guided bombs, where in this specific vehicle the Israeli variant (premium) is the better when you consider ordnance options, it can carry the same TV guided bombs with the Aim-9B missiles, even knowing they’re not good.
I am intrested rn. I’m waiting for Oct to roll around to pick it up hopefully
Lol, 335 get’s dogged on in air rb though if your head on misses. I find it’s kinda like the A-10 of props. But I love it anyways :)
Only the Ayit, A-4E, A-4E (M) and Israeli A-4E (premium variant) have CCRP, the A-4B and A-4H doesn’t have.
If you know how to do CAS without assistance, they’re good vehicles, but this vary from player to player.
Meant to say A4E my bad. Regardless i have my 3 bullpups on my A4B for the US and i already play them at 9.3 since i have a bigger lineup their. Now if the 105 had RB05A and bombs that would be OP. The SK60 is a weird vehicle. Carry the AGM’s and your defenseless. It also has grossly weak engines for 7.0 though i remember it being higher BR when i first played. Sweden doesn’t have a proper lineup at 7.0 or 7.7 so it gets played at 8.0 if anything, though i never actually see them outside of air RB
What have you been told that conflicts what ive said?
Dealing with 105’s from me. Doing vertical moves is very situational and depends on the aircraft as to whether one should do it against another aircraft. Some leave themselves as a free kill if they cant outrun the 105 while going up, other can use this as a way to force the 105 to bleed speed. If the 105 has missiles going in a straight line is just a bad idea.
So for what he’s said there, I think there are better, lower risk alternatives. The RB-24’s are Aim-9B equivalent, so, so long as you are watching while you are running you can make a slight turn to avoid them without bleeding too much speed, if you go into a straight vertical and lose all your speed in an attempt to get him to lose all his too so you can hammerhead down onto him when he stalls, what can happen is that he will get a lock with his 9b’s and you are too slow to turn to avoid it. In a 1v1 gunfight doing vertical loops will bleed the speed of the 105, much in the same way you can use them to beat IL-2’s and 10’s, so is an effective way to beat them, but like you’ve said is an issue, you are putting yourself on a platter for a 3rd party. Disciplined energy fighting where you focus on keeping your own energy is generally better than all in’ing and trading it for one kill/gun solution. Hope that clarifies, let us know how you are going on.
Lol yeah it does now. :)
I’m actually doing much better now. I’ve been keeping my speed up and have found it a lot easier to play the F-86’s. Granted I did end up switching from the F-35 to the F-2, but I still feel like I’m doing better stock with the F-2 than spaded with the F-35. I still occasionally forget to keep speed up and go into vertical maneuvers but that’s generally towards the last half of the match and It’s normally a 2v2 or something.
I do have just a question though.
When you say stay on the deck and reach high speeds then zoom climb, how fast would you recommend and what degree of climb? Right now I generally wait until 700Km/h then go into a 20 degree and it is generally enough to give me 3500m.
they mostly like russia…
an accurate representation, yes
Wanna give that one a double check?
The lead dev said in one interview that he oh so loves Sweden and with how unrealistic some recent weaponry additions have been I’m willing to put at least some trust into that statement.
Regardless, I think OP meant that mostly for ground battles.
If the Alpha Jet A/E can be 9.0 because of their CCIP and goodish flight performance then so can the 105G/öe. It even has missiles over the two. ( Keep in mind it’s also lower than the A-4B which is missing it’s flares and only gets 3 weapon pylons with little flexibility)
For air it can be annoying to deal with so idk maybe 8.7 could warrant a better time for the planes uptiered into it or if they just remove it’s airspawn ( since it’s an attacker, kinda lame that some worse planes than it get an AF spawn, looking at you F-84F)
Good to hear, that speed is good, I personally use knots for speed so i guess 700kph is about 380kt, so maybe a little faster say 800-850kph, but what you can do is climb at a much steeper angle, say 35-40 degrees, and if you try that you should get a bit more altitude. At this BR you arent really climbing to get above everyone like you are in props, you are climbing so that you have some energy stored in the form of altitude so that you A. have an escape option if you are jumped, and B. will naturally be in a better energy state than all the other people who just kept to the deck, so you will be able to boom and zoom them more effectively. As a note about the different sabres, I think it really is a detriment to have the M3 brownings at this BR, I hate them personally, but something like an Aden or Defa will always be a more reliable, faster killing gun, that is not that hard to aim. Heres hoping we get one of the canadian or australian sabres that have the Adens in the future
Okay, I’ll try that.
Yeah, and even by the time I end up joining the giant furball it’s already lower than me so the ALT defiantly helps
Yeah, the only downside to the cannons on the US saber is the low ammo count. I’m REALLY hoping that they add the H sabers soon. I’d love having cannons and missiles.
HECK YEAH! I’d grind those out so fast.