Burst, as I said, not a single projectile.
Doesnt really matter, if you’ve used the gun you’d know its hit or miss. You’re just hoping the snail favors you more than your enemy with these cannons. A very good set of 30mm is found on the Japanese planes though they fall off imo on the R2Y2, but thats probably a skill issue.
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Well I normally just run away from them and avoid the fight, so I don’t lol
I’ve come to realize that the hard way
IDK man… Every time they’ve hit me, they REALLY hit. My wing’s are so scared of them, that they eject themselves…
Hmm ok. Maybe I just need practice fighting them, bc I’ve tried doing this and they still absolutely slap me
Yeah the stealth belts are annoying, but it’s more the maneuverability that is the worst part
So especially with the sabres, what you can do at this br, is simply fly straight out of the airfield instead of climbing, and then when you hit your max speed at that alt, you can pitch up and effectively zoomclimb to the altitude you would have climbed to by slowclimbing. So you can cut out the whole stage where you are slow and an easy target by doing this, and begin energy fighting either at a high speed off the deck, or convert that speed into altitude just before the battle, and play it that way. This is how it works for most jets at this BR and later BR’s. In jets i would advise that you try to stay away from hard vertical manouvers, keeping speed is the key to survival, if you miss a pass then its not an issue, if you keep your speed you can keep going for more passes and energy trap the other guy, and you will be a lot harder to 3rd party. Its better to miss and zoom off than to pull hard to try and avoid the overshoot but make yourself a free kill for the guy’s teammates. When you are at your max speed then you should find it pretty easy to deal with the SAAB-105’s and SK-60’s. Honestly, the best way to learn how to beat various vehicles is to play them, so if you are anywhere near that br on sweden air, give it a go and see what it feels like.
The whole everytime you die to them you see how strong they are is something that happens when you never played that vehicle. I remember complaining about the J21’s on sweden when i was playing britain and now that ive played the J21’s i can say the community has a huge skill issue. They dont turn too well or gain energy and they lose energy so easily. Your biggest advantage is a nose mounted 20mm and 2 13.2mm guns on the wings which lets you win head ons and thats all they’ve got going for them lol. I really recommend you try their air tree before forming such a strong opinion because unlike their ground tree their air tree is pretty bad lol. Its has a few gems but they are far and few between.
Also in my clip.you can see how slow I turn at lower speeds. Not the best example but i recommend looking at some vids, i think Defyn played it recently, im not a huge defyn or really any air youtuber watcher but i know people like his content.
Ok, I’ll try that
Okay.
Okay, well now I’m getting conflicting advice…
Okay, I’ll try and remember to just stay fast
I’m somewhat, but won’t have them for a while
Yeah, I try avoiding that mentality but I can’t for some reason with the SAAB-105’s…
Mhm
I’m not at that stage just yet, but am looking forward to playing them bc of my mindset of them rn
Speed is key. And not every vehicle plays the same. Some do great at lower or higher. The biggest thing is trying what works for you. Find what vehicle you play at that BR and see how it works. You can see in the vid i slowly overshoot the enemy but he had just dived and turned around i was staying above the battlefield and dived and forgot to throw airbrake. In some cases you just set yourself in to a bad spot (lord knows how many times ive done it.) A big thing is to know whats around you. If you commit to a turn fight you’re going to be slow and its easy for a 3rd party to take you out. Sometimes you dont have a chance to turnfight because there are too many opponents. A lot of engagements focus on who keeps their energy and where you are. If the saab gets behind you he’ll probably throw a missile at you to try and bleed your speed. Additionally if you get behind him he’ll probably either try to out turn you so you can’t get gun or he’ll try to run away. It’ll be up to you to decide to slow down or keep your speed.
Mhm
Yeah, and I want the F86 and F9F to work, but I guess I probably just need to practice more
Lol yeah, that’s me
Normally there are teammates around me, then they all disappear and are replaced by enemies, but ig you know how US teams are XD
Okay
I don’t trust teammates lol, even my own squad mates half the time. I normally fly within .20km of my squadmates so i can assist with kills. We’ll try braking in two separate directions while one plays distraction and the other plays attacker.
Also the Saab can be tanky. Ive flown back to base missing my right wing tip and my left engine being out but if i got into another fight id be dead. If you plan on fighting play like someone is gonna steal your kill. I never let them fly away if they are on fire simce they have an extinguisher.
Well you’re very lucky to have squamates you can play with a lot. Most of my friends don’t play a lot or have jet tiers. And I haven’t gotten too aquinted with my squadron yet
Yeah, they are surprisingly tuff for a jet, why can’t my F86 be like that :(
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Most of my squad mates dont play past 9.0 because missiles are cringe lol. They prefer more focus on dogfighting.
Lol
Same, and I think that’s why I die so much when playing jets
I have to say I disagree. There are a few other aircraft at 8.3 that has AAMs as there is an aircraft in the French and American Tech trees
(I don’t feel like checking every tech tree and every premium so let me know what I missed)
Another factor for it being at 8.3 is because it doesn’t have any integrated guns, if you want a gun, you have to bring a gun pod. On top of that its not that fast for its BR.
As for the CCIP, I don’t know what to tell ya.
Sometimes I don’t care if a vehicle is blatantly OP and undertiered, but if other nations also feature the same kind of vehicle I’d be ok like with the A-4E that was 8.7 but got moved up BR to 9.3 on ground battles.
Thats the problem not every nation has an equivalent. If we went about moving vehicles based just because they have an ability you’d have a ton of vehicle’s that cant do anything compared to their contemporaries. Do you think the Saab 105 should be the same Br as something like the A4E? 8.7 for ground doesn’t really affect it if it went up since nobody plays sweden at 8.3 for ground, air wise its not OP it doesnt do very well compared to vehicle’s at its BR. I tend to find them also very easy to deal with in ground RB since they still have to get close to the ground to effectively use CCIP. Its weird that i see people (not saying you) think it should be with the A4E considering the differences in what they can do.
Sea hawk on britain is 8.0 without missiles iirc but the german premium version has 4 missiles and is at the same BR. The 105 is pretty mid for air but for CAS its pretty good. Wouldn’t replace A4B since i have CCRP. Tbf i have gotten very good woth CCRP. Enough to say its almost on par withh CCIP. Just requires more preparation and knowledge of vehicle whereabouts on the map.
It only has 2, but your point still stands