RWR: New mechanism of RWR is not realistic :(

I thought that’s how all RWRs work.

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Strictly speaking, the launch warning is only for CW signals. The SPO15 has a specific indicator light for PD signals, but there is no clear distinction between the HPRF tracking signal and the illumination signal used to guide the AIM7M, so the indicator does not provide you with a launch warning, you will only have a tracking warning when you are tracked or illuminated. With an ARM you do have the opportunity to differentiate when you get a PD tracking warning that it’s a missile with an increasing signal. But the same reason you can’t distinguish between HPRF tracking and irradiated signals, you’ll only get a tracking warning, not a launch warning.

As for your idea that you can tell by the scanning frequency of the TWS signal whether the opponent is launching an attack on you in TWS mode, I think it is indeed possible. When you engage only one target, in the case of the APG63, the interval between the two sets of signals in RWS mode is about 1.7 seconds, while the interval between the signals in TWS mode is 0.85 seconds. You do have a chance of sensing what patterns the other person is using, provided the signal in that direction is clean enough.

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I am reminded of how the majority of top RWR systems can no longer ID SAM and SPAA radar systems on dev server now.

Definitely a load of dingo’s kidneys, this goofy talking RWR can tell the difference between a SA-6, SA-8 and SPAA gun tracking radar.

It’s not a very large logical leap to assume at least later systems can differentiate SA-19 from SA-8, SA-11 and SA-6.

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Please Gaijin, Can we get something adressing the BS system you just came up with?

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Yall should upvote this so it gets changed
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/gaR9FJbYn14M

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Hello All, Reminder to please remain civil, and keep the discussion on topic!

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(Now my personal opinion)

Yeah I don’t see why this needed to be changed, the RWR system right now is fine as is, I really wish to know the reason behind this change, genuinely.

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yeah agree!! gaijin should change it by more realistic way. or just dont change it…
changing it with a simple mechanism is not a brilliant action…

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supported :D

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And that is remotely ok for you ? What in the actual hell lol

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exactly! they gave little info on why they are doing it, and have refused to elaborate or even aknowledge public outcry

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Hey,

It was part of modeling the various RWR displays to have their realistic symbology. This identified a disparity between the Threat ID tables and the available symbology on a number of units.

As always we welcome well sourced reports on this subject.

Cheers

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So we can bring the F5’s temperature up to where it should be, yeah? Or would that be an ahistoric nerf for US planes based information not demonstrated in the cockpit?

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So the only way to fix the issue is to share very specific and likely classified documents. Since I doubt the information they want is publically shared.
Considering there’s basically no other way to confirm the nerf is wrong that they seem to be willing to accept.

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I think I can use some British documents that cover our Sky Guardian RWR units, as they use the same display unit found in American aircraft as justification. I’ll be creating a report tonight. When I get a Dev response I’ll provide you all with an update where possible.

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Appreciated to hear, I don’t quite get the sudden reasoning behind the nerf though. Or the insistence on it dispite the overwhelmingly negative feedback from what I’ve seen.

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Sure, I just mentioned the F-14 because it’s the biggest outlier of this in-game.

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I created a report on the possibility of reprogramming EID tables based on many authoritative sources, explained how digital RWRS work and why using documents from the 80s and 90s to set up EID tables in a game where the technique of 2010 does not make sense. But the report was closed due to the reason “Different RWR systems detect the signal differently”, although in my report it was only about identifying a previously detected signal. Apparently, either the developer is too stupid and does not understand that in the documents of the 80-90s there can be no mention of sa-22 or other equipment, and does not understand that this does not mean that now RWR systems cannot identify it or are too arrogant and nerf aviation despite the absurdity and unreality of the new mechanics of EID tables. Perhaps it will be useful or interesting for someone to study my sources, here is the link: Community Bug Reporting System

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Respectfully, this is an area of the game that could be slightly less realistic, IMO.

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