I played 20 games as NATO at top tier myself and in my games Russia only had a 50% winrate.
I do not believe this one bit.
I have almost 600 games in my KVT, with a 47.7% winrate. Again, part of that positive winrate is due to the fact I’m often teamed up with Russia.
If we only take the NATO vs Russia games, it’s more like 20-30% winrate over 600 games in the KVT.
Is that coincidence ? Paranoia ? Lack of luck ? I don’t think so
It is not normal. I already listed the whys, but Russia is just too much unbalanced compared to NATO throughout the BRs, but especially at top tier BRs.
Again, as I stated before, 70% of your vehicles which have given you the >= 60% winrate you have in your overall matches are T-series/Leos. We argued the maths the other day.
Those are your own personnal performance, you win 6-10 games out of 10 when you play a T-serie/Leo MBT. You don’t have as much important winrates with the other NATO MBTs.
I’m not making up things, everybody can check that
So unless my math fails me here, that is 10 wins for Russia and 10 wins against Russia, which is a 50% winrate.
Also I deliberately avoided nations with a Leo 2 as much as possible, and the NATO winrate in these 20 games should be even higher, because there were some massive throws in these 20 games.
I even sent this in one of the other Russian bias threads before.
Also since you keep dodging the spawn question I got curious and went through your last 10 replays to find out myself:
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Specifically highlighting your US games. Of the 8 games you played as US you only ever spawned a second ground vehicle 4 games, of those second ground spawns 2 were AAs and 2 were M1128.
So essentially you were out of the ground fight after your first spawn in most of your games (I also saw some really interesting stuff while you were playing your first spawns, but that is another story).
The variables arent really the problem. The problem is when one tree is this much more popular then it becomes borderline impossible to get actual data about how well anyone performs since all winrates heavily depend on russias. We really need some data about average team compositions.
Man I only have the KVT + a10 + little bird, I’m a France main, I’m starting to grind top tier US rn. Of course I can only spawn 1 MBT, I didn’t unlock the other TT vehicles yet.
I’m not gonna waste second spawn cards every game where I can clearly see Russia is steamrolling us in our spawns and everybody leave. For the moment, I spawn KVT + A10 if enough sp + little bird (and die instantly because helirush is completely borken rn), check if we are getting spawncamped/everybody left, and if this is the case : leave without spawning a second time and relaunch a game.
When I’ll get the 9.7 bradley + booker + dragoon, things are gonne be different, same as when I finaly started getting multiple vehicles in France
But again, what does that have anything to do with the overall NATO lack of performance against Russia at top tier ?
I usually consider popularity a semi variable in war thunder, because it can quickly change based on Gaijin’s additions in an update.
But yeah I should have communicated that a bit clearer.
1-2 death leavers that barely do anything have a pretty big impact on winrates, or at least on a teams ability to win. Since you pretty much turn that game into a numerical disadvantage for your team.
So it’s no wonder that your winrate is doing poorly for 10.7 US. By being out of the match early you greatly limit your own possible contributions towards winning the game, but you are also putting your team at a disadvantage.
You borderline 1 death leave in your M1 KVT, I play my KVT is a big lineup and often spawn multiple times when I die. So that is one of the partial explanations why your KVT winrate is 47-48% and my KVT winrate is sitting at 62%.
First, if you want to be perfectly honest, you check my 11.0-13.0 GRB games as FRANCE, where I have around 10 vehicles in the lineup. Not my top tier USA games where I barely started to grind lol
Second, as I said before, my personnal performance is = to 1/16th of the overall team’s performance, it’s completely irrelevant. The other 15 allies do things in the game bruh
Finaly, I remind you I do spawn in the a10 in multiple games, and make multiple kills with it. It greatly contributes to the team’s win, so there is that.
Ah i see. It can change quickly but it was still always diverse. The current one-sidedness is unprecedented and the next update probably wont change that.
WT is (usually) 16v16. If one person decides to leave it already turns into a 15v16, which is already a disadvantage but still winable. Now if 4 people decide to 1 death leave that already makes it a 12v16.
It’s easy to tell yourself you are not at fault, but you basically 1 death leaving does still contribute to the low winrates.
You don’t need to have flashy plays and big numbers to contribute to a win. If I had to choose I would pick teammates that end the game 4/7 but have stayed until the end over someone who goes 6/1 but left after 3-4 minutes.
There, check last game with France. 12.7 GRB, Winter Maginot Line, ended at 5:06pm.
Got first in the team, almost got a nuke. Destroyed the Russians with this one.
Of course I perform when I have more than 1 vehicle lol. Keep in mind this is my 12.7 lineup, not my 13.0 : I have a Tiger HAD Block 2 completely stock I didn’t spade (basicaly can’t use it, only has like 4 hellfires). My Leclerc SXXI is also stock (not the best dart, no ir no nothing). And still first.
The M1 KVT and ofc the TT M1 are fantastic TBH for their BRs
If they got a better round, such as the M900 it would be a mosnter ,or even the M883.
Cause the KVT gets prem bonuses mate
Booker may well move up, but it also has the luxury of being a US tank at 10.7
Doesn’t the VT5 have a better round too? or does the booker get M900?
VT4 and VT4A1 are absolutely fun as hell
Why even is it at 11.7 man genuinely, I stopped going for it when ti hit that
Dude’s always doing the same mate I’ve got him ignored cause of it xD
Tries to then say “the stats don’t lie” , when his specific stats are not basis for the entire playerbase
There is a reason this dude has a sub 1000 score per game mate, he ODLs then cries his teams don’t carry him to victory, the M1 and M1 KVT at 10.7 when used properly are absolutely able to swing matches.
Bit like ARB for USA and now Rus as they’re always on both teams. when sooo many people use the nations, as can be seen by the top 5 being russian, it buggers up the stats and the metrics quite a bit.
I’ve had a few USSR VS USSR at 11.7 when I was last on GRB for them as well.
I’ll save you the hassle, I did before when he was using his metrics as a baseline, he ODLs quite a lot.
It’s the biggest detriment to US teams. If you get a US team at 10.7 and up who do not leave then you almost always win.
Thank you for demonstrating NATO forces constantly loose against Russia at top tier, that’s what I’m trying to explain for months now.
Also, everybody saw that “Monthly Stats” checked, you’re not fooling anyone mate :clown:
Also also, as I only been playing 10.7 US during this month, with only 1 singular KVT in my lineup and CONSTANT LOSSES against Russia 8 out 10 games => 1.50 kd ratio is pretty good, ngl. Mid position in a team constantly leaving after 1 death means I’m actually raising the overall team’s performance, and not the other way around. Thanks for that.
being middle of the pack when 1-2DLing at a premium BR means you are the average player, you’re not above average in anything dude, your monthly stats KDR and KPS being so close are indicative of you dying essentially every spawn which is supported by your monthly stats of 938 kills, 639 deaths (1.47kdr) with your tank on tank kps being 1.46 (642 spawns) this means you have only had THREE spawns the entire month where you HAVENT died, lol
you’re overall stats are even worse boss lol they’ve got an under 1000 score per match.
a 1.5 KD with ODL is horrendous mate, if you one death leave the KD should be above 3.0 ish , so double what you currently have.
Mid position with one death does not mean you are improving the teams performance, at all, imagine you had played with a lineup and stayed, you potentially would help more.
Oppose to focuing solely on your KD and being extremely mediocre and mid.
You’ve an overall better KD than I, but lower win rate, lower average score and as well as lower spawn time.
Which means Though I only average a 1.0KD on my overall 27k deaths, I have much more impact per game, on assists, caps etc than you do
As well as that my KD has steadily increased from 0.5 to 1.0 in just about a year.
