Just a matter of time booker and IPM1 will be at the same br lol
I guess being slower, lacking spall liner and autoloader are the reasons why its not sitting at 11.7, tho it should be 11.3 at least in my book.
The vt-5 look worse everywhere on the paper , gun handling is much worse because it inherited the ru bad genes and ammunition also a bit worse compare to m900, same round used by the zlt11 at 9.7 lol because of that I would imagine it play like the spruts.
I don’t have the vt-5 but I played the vt-4 and already didn’t like it feel.
There is a bunch of stuff that the VT-5 does better than the M10, but it’s mostly a sum of small advantages that shouldn’t mean a whole BR difference. VT-5 has:
- Better gun handling
- Better survivability (spall liners)
- Slightly better turret armor
- Better reload (5 second autoloader > 5.3 second expert manual loader)
- Better mobility
- Better optics for sniping
Ideally the VT5 goes back down to 11.3 and the M10 moves up to 11.0.
Too low? What was I supposed to hit? The air?

I literally hit and disabled the autoloader carousel on that T-80 and set it on fire (with what’s left of my poor M829A1’s post pen thanks to magic ERA). You do know what happens to those carousels and the ammo in them when they get hit in real life, right?
Aiming accuracy stops being the main problem when your long-rod penetrator gets sent to the void regardless of where you hit your target, wouldn’t you think so?
I did not. The round went through and hit the hull carousel and the fuel tank.
This might be shocking news to you, but coincidentally in real life, NATO armor such as Chobham/Dorchester composite arrays also provide KE protection and spall protection (along with specialized ductile steel/aluminum construction which has spall-suppressing properties by the way), all without having to rely on external ERA bricks. However, none of this is represented in the game in a fair or accurate way, even without access to all the classified military information.
Which literally makes you survive engagements you simply shouldn’t, but let’s conveniently ignore that.
Irrelevant : as always, I’m showing the overhaul NATO performance vs Russia :
12 10.7 GRB games + 2 12.7 GRB games played. 3 wins, among them 1 alongwith Russia.
So Russia got 11 + 1 = 12 wins out of 14 games = 85.71% winrate for Russia.
It’s like that since months, probably years.
What’s the point of playing this game NATO side if you’re gonna loose 80% of your games ? People will leave this game at some point, it is not balanced.
EDIT : pretty sure their “official” winrates are rigged. 50% winrate for 10.7 NATO ? Nobody believes that.
Holy flashbang
It’s the HDR somehow I think
Okay you can correct me if I’m wrong, but I assume you mean overall here and not overhaul.
Also what you are showing is hardly the “overall NATO performance vs Russia”. What you are showing is 14 games from a single person. To put that into perspective, the M1 KVT had just over 366k games played this month.
So your 14 games make up around 0,0038% of all battles played in it (math might be slightly off, but it gets the point across).
I showed hundreds of games since weeks
I challenge anyone showing me 30 games in a row against 10.7 GRB Russia with a russian % winrate < 70%.
It doesn’t happen. The “official” winrates are rigged. 50% winrate at 10.7 against Russia ? Nobody believes that.
EDIT : statistically, it’s very unlikely I ALWAYS end up in the 0-30% NATO winrate part. So I presume this winrate is the same over the 400k KVT games your refered to. Or maybe I’ve been unlucky during my entire 1400h of gameplay ? Very unlikely.
EDIT 2 : you don’t seem to understand the KVT (thus the US) often gets mixed battled fighting ALONGWITH Russia. That’s why the “official” stats are showing 50% winrate. But against Russia only, it’s loss after loss after loss => 0-30% winrate. I’ve said that for months.
Which is a dangerous and foolish (imo) assumption to make, since there are a lot of factors that possibly influence your bad winrate that others don’t have. I don’t feel like replay stalking right now, but do you play alone a lot or with squads? Do you actually spawn in multiple times or are you a 1-2 death leaver? Hell individual playstyles can even have a small effect on winrate.
As answered multiple times already, my personnal performance is = to 1/16th of the overall team’s performance.
Even if I were bottom of the board every single game, it would mean the other 15 NATO players are also, always, bad. They’d never play in squads, they’d always leave after 1 death, they’d all be bad in general. Which of course is not the case.
Look at my KVT’s winrate. 47.7% wirate. But that’s of course because I’m often paired with Russia (and thus win). If we only consider the matches NATO vs Russia, it’s more like 20-30% winrate.
It’s not rocket science, it’s just logical
Just for the record i do think that the 80% or whatever he says are vastly overblown however he does have a point in that global winrates currently are iffy due to the ridiculous one sidedness in playrate. Stats are great if they are comparable but rn the top 5 most played vehicles in february and january were all russian 10.7 upwards. Thats definitely not normal.
It does not invalidate his experience as a player, though. I for one can definitely confirm this for 10.3 US teams.
It doesnt but if youre arguing via personal experiences as players then some mouthbreathing BMPT abuser will come in here and tell you that via his personal experiences the BMPT is way too weak and should have actually stayed at 10.3 and gotten APFSDS
What you are doing isn’t logic based at all lol.
You have a pre made conclusion and shape everything you perceive as evidence into such a way that it fits your already existing conclusion. You wave away everything that goes against your pre made conclusion and when that becomes impossible you move the goalpost.
You haven’t answered my other question though? How often do you 1-2 death leave? You can answer or I’ll find it out by going through your replays, your choice really.
Yes I agree on that. There are too many variables for global winrates.
I mainly brought up the KVT battles to show how small of a sample size 14 games is.
It’s not that his personal experiences are invalid, what’s invalid is him trying to claim that his personal experiences are universal for the vast majority of NATO players.
He tried this before with 20-30 games as NATO at top tier showing a supposedly 70-80% winrate for Russia. I played 20 games as NATO at top tier myself and in my games Russia only had a 50% winrate.
ISS is fake. The ‘‘official’’ data is rigged. The Earth is flat yet people dispute it? Nobody believes that.
If you don’t play a t-series/leo in this game, you definetely don’t have the META, and are most likely to loose
Leclerc/Abrams/Type 10/Merkava can all easily beat most of the T-series lol.


