Yeah but thats 14.7. This is 13.0-13.3 for a plane that is rather dominant for the br. Im still of the opinion that the mig 21 bis should go back to 11.3 and the mig 23 should be 12.0, they are both amazing fm with some minor drawbacks that can be worked around quite easily if you just put in some time. All of these have one thing in common and that they shit on full downtiers.
Like sorry, but you can’t tell me that this isn’t BS 😂
Thats the average su 33 player tbh, theyll fire 3 or 4 r27ers at you at once. If that doesnt kill you theyll fire another salvo not knowing they are only guiding in one missile. Gets quite annoying when they decide your the one for them today.
I climb to try and draw a number of missiles onto me as unlike most of my teams i at least have a chance at notching the incoming sarh missiles (arh missiles are alot easier to notch unless its a fakour then your already dead by the time u get the missiles warning).
man just tanks an apfsds round to the nuts lol.



except MiG-21bis and if u don’t have rockets, all rank VII russian jets are extremely balanced.
like anything else in a downtier?
when i face 5.7 Shermans in my 6.7 Tiger II i just let them shoot first, laugh cuz they can’t pen me, and then brutally massacrate them.
Stats are null and void for squardon vehicles. it would be like showing you the premium bmpt stats and saying it isnt over performing because its bellow 50%.
Fuel tanks are so inconsistent to the point where it’s gambling. Either you one-shot the vehicle via fuel explosion or it tanks everything and you end up getting killed.
sure it’s below 50%

Lol, it was 48% when it was first introduced… Those are some diabolical stats.
Su-27 performs better than Su-33 tho Su-33 has “more missiles” and Su-27 was less played

Su-33 can’t even reach 1.0 K/D, Su-27 has +1.0 K/D.
and i have +1.0 K/D in my own Su-27 too (tho i don’t use it since Su-27SM was released, i only played it a few times when Air Superiority released the Flanker and the Eagle).
Dont know what your getting at with the mig 21? But the mig 23s and mig 21bis are not balanced. I have the lazur which is probably the best variant of it and it is just unfair when im facing jets with no flares who are slower than me when i have r60ms. The rwr isnt even a downside anymore as you can see pd radars now due to the almighty gaijin. If people cant notch with it they need to get better.
As a general rule of thumb, if you hit 3/4 of these, your round will have a big chance of disappearing:
Track
ERA
Fuel Tank
Spall Liner
4/4 its a wrap, your round is gone
2/4 occasionally
1/4 near none
Top tier is just BS inconsistency fiesta.
I would suggest going for idler wheel there.
Like i said, one you require months of grinding to get. the other you just need to turn up for a couple weeks and your given it. Thats if u dont ge it.
The difference between sample sizes isn’t that big so I don’t really think it matters.
Keep in mind that anyone can get the Su-33 but only those who had grinded all of the Russian Tech tree can play the Su-27. The difference in general skill may be better for the Su-27 than the Su-33.
If we just look at raw performance, the Su-33 gets 2x more R-27ERs (which is quite nice) at the cost of worse RWR and less CMs, though I think the Su-33’s RWR and 48 pops of CM is good enough for 13.0.
I think they should both be the same BR though.
That’s fair though if the fuel tank wasn’t there I’m sure that it would’ve killed both the gunner and commander.

yeah i wish you all the luck with fox 3 slingers
MiG-21bis maybe isn’t, MiG-23MLD is.
MiG-21bis but premium, nothing else, exactly the same aircraft.
as i was referring to, that “unfairness” depends if the player u’re facing is smart and or is playing a supersonic aircraft/aircraft with rockets.
if u have rockets u can just fire them to fool the R-60M, if u’re in a supersonic aircraft u can pretty much barrel roll the R-60M (except in a head-on).
lmao no, toptier squadron vehicles usually take more than 2/3 months, and that’s if u’re in a very active squadron, if u’re in a bad and lazy squadron that can take at least 1 year.
why would u GE a squadron plane without talisman, without premium buffs like being able of researching the entire tech tree, etc? u must be dumb if u try to do it, and GE’ing it just cuz u want to play a Flanker is a bad idea.
Whales exist. And the mig 21 bis is THE best fm for the br so even if you bring rockets your still facing a mig 21 bis. The lazure doesn’t require the ugly pod therefore is the best. Months in a grind squad which is real easy to find.
so in ur opinion having 3% better WR and +0.30 K/D than the Su-33 is not “that big”?

having more skill with the Su-27 means u can pretty much just hop into the Su-33 and get good matches too, if u decide to skip that part and instantly hop into an inferior aircraft, all u will get is +10k SL repair cost for u.
trust me, CMs are important at toptier, especially at 13.0 where u face 14.0 planes with Fox-3s which can be hard to deal with in the worst situations, and being limited to 48 SUCKS. i recommend u to play with Kfir C.7 to taste what 13.0 feels when u have less than 96CM.
it isn’t at ALL.
tho Su-33’s RWR is better than the one in the Su-27, 48CMs are not worth the price.
they’re the same BR.
