Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

this got to be a joke lad

your round just went outside because of the angel

a black and white photo of a chicken wearing a hat with the words " don t even joke lad " below it

If your getting in a knife fight at top tier air your doing something very very wrong, so what does that leave you? In an f15 facing r27ers. FM is not a deciding factor past like 12.7.

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how many times have u faced a T-90M using 3OF26…

  1. M829A2 and DM53
  2. it’s obvious 3BM60 has more spall cuz it’s a goddamn 125mm smooth-bore cannon, it’s literally one of the biggest cannons in the world, if we ignore prototype MBTs with 152mm auto-loaded cannons or even the german KF51 with it’s 130mm cannon.

125mm spalls down into your compartment and all 3 of my crew are in the turret, do the maths.

Brother use your eyes and read the original point was the f15A once again being moved down in br to handhold US players like it was before.

No one’s saying it’s more effective than su 27 now adays after both the multipath nerf and su27 buff.

That it should not ge the same br as the fulcrum was the original point.

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They work. Just dont shoot too high.

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as i said, 125mm cannon, the biggest one ingame, why are u surprised it has more spall damage? it’s like being surprised after facing T-62M-1 and watching it’s 115mm APFSDS due more spall damage than ur 10mm smaller Leopard 1A5’s cannon.

If we go by what the forum says, and zenturion, spall is generated by risudal penetration.

Which the 3BM60 loses quite a lot of compared to the M829A2 , DM53 and what not.

Oh, yeah the f15 going to 12.7 was retarded. I think everyone with a brain understands that.

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@Flanker_Thunder 125mm does not do more damage than 120mm.

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F-15A was ok at 13.0, Su-27 should go to 13.3 due to how good it is, i believe i got an Ace one time in an uptier.

I see.
Maybe I should only go for hull ammo (though I can’t say it’s possible in every case). It seems like I almost always get into trouble by trying to take out its turret crew.

Also American teams at 10.3 - 12.0 at the moment have been awful from my experience, so it’s not really easy to get a fair fight with them in the first place 😅

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su 33 needs to go to 13.3 first. 10 r27ers is just too much to be seeing in a 12.0 jet. Countermeasures is annoying but not the end of the world.

really? i feel it’s way more destructive than NATO APFSDS, but at least for me that’s quite hard to determine since no matter the APFSDS all of them just one shot everything if fired to weakspots.

The consistency in Top Tier is appalling.
As much as I like the gameplay, fuel tanks and ammo not detonating when they are suppose to is extremely infuriating

No wonder most top players just prefer to seal club at low tier / mid tier.

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CHINESE DRIVER
LITERALLY what mostly matters at toptier are COUNTERMESURES
48CM means u must run more chaff/flares than flares/chaff, which makes the plane extremely limited to be used especifically as a multipather (and even with that, it’s still not enough for 13.0).
also, Su-33 is heavier than Su-27 due to the canards and longer fuselage, which makes it worse for dogfights.

it can only carry 8 R-27ERs, 12 missiles in total.

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Not before I get it mate i hope

I mean, im usually flying at 10km and only facing radar missiles. The only missile i cant 100% notch is the r27er but that thing just likes to ignore your notch half the time despite all the manoeuvres you do.

Are they single release like on the 29 because if so that’s more than enough.

wdym

well that’s why R-27ER is the best SARH missile ingame, so good u can even use it at toptier and still get kills despite most of ur enemies using Fox-3s.

yes they’re but that’s not an excuse at all. it’s like saying the new J-15T will be balanced at 14.7 just cuz it has single-release 48LCCM while carrying 14 missiles, that’s not a good excuse for saying it’s balanced cuz that only means it’s a “one-trick pony”: launch 14 missiles to anything that moves and then die cuz not enough CM to defend itself from 32 different missiles coming ur way.

idk what’s the problem with toptier players, but everytime i play Su-30SM2 i get lots of RWR warnings like most players are just braindead bots looking for dropping all their loadout on u.