Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

They simply do not have the versatility of almost every NATO MBT. I’d rather be in an XM-1 (GM) with M833 or M774 at 10.7 than a T-90S because of how much mobility matters, and how far good gun handling goes.

Also, Gaijin does not put that much effort into making a map.

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That doesn’t change the glaring fact they perform better around average players, to which the game is built upon its monetization.

And I’d pick the BMPT over any M1A2 anytime. Your point being besides personal preference?

No one is arguing about map quality. If anything, I pointed out how, for instance, Breslau is a map which openly favors eastern designs by lacking hull down gameplay almost entirely around capture points and focuses on lane-based engagements, where hesitating on aiming leads to you lose the engagement, whereas an eastern MBT can just aim center mass and will cripple you at the very least.

Not to mention the overly redundant amount of courtyards which favors basically unhealthy CQB, where vehicles can just hide turning off their engines and just farm people driving around.

Remember the web-browser flash game, which you just have to spawn troops and tanks in one lane to fight the opponent?

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What’s the difference from its TT counter part? They all the same.

He spoke about the entire tree, which does not consist of these 3 tanks

Maybe you should read what BR he’s talking about

His wording:

Ig he could have meant “its” to be specifically 11.0+ russia referring to his specific lineup but that is not how I read it

Yup grinding the nation at 12.0 and its meh. What’s hard to understand?

It sounded like you were talking about the nation in whole

I would still say they aren’t far off with a 6-7/10 for Russia top tier ground.

The T-80s pull the rating up slightly but the T-72s/90s dfag it down.

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Jets/Helis also cracked obviously

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Cause this entire discussion is about 10-12.7 :)

CAS is insane on Russia tho

Yeah if we include helis and cas I would the rating would go up to at least 8/10. Maaaaybe someone could argue 9/10 even, but I’m sticking to 8/10 for now.

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Overall if its just ground id give 6 from my experience compared to USA/Germany. To many spots can’t be played and got to improvise my positioning.

More like 10/10.

Some people likes to claim Mi28NM is not as strong as AH64E or Z-10ME due to sheer amount of missiles, well i guess this proves otherwise.

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yeah really need a huge buff is unreal how in weakspots “perfect shoot” not enought to destroy a t80 with full ammo because the autoloader and the ammo eat shell spaling with minimal damage… really russia need a buff…
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is not enought u need to shott in weakspots because russia is most armored in front and side bit this not 100% to destroy him really what a buff want??

is to weak need a buff…

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Vocabulary:
OP = “Good” “OK” “decent” “5,6/10” “meh”
Save your energy arguing with these sweat lords

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Autoloaders and their associated metal covers really should generate spalling. Turret baskets do, so why wouldn’t more substantial plates around metal autoloaders also generate spall?

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