I have a side.
SPICE exists, KH38MT doesnt.
Theres proof for SPICE being compatible with EFTs, theres 0 proof for KH38MTs being compatible with the in game planes.
Its really not that hard and is also not the topic of the thread…
Afaik there was a discussion back when the 38ML/MT were introduced, that only the Su-34 should have them, as other Sukhois don’t have the wiring/software to use them. So technically speaking… a fake weapon, on a bunch of planes, that actually can’t use it, even if it existed.
edit: yes I know the 25SM3 can technically use them (the ML that is, cus it exists, but for the sake of the argument I’m not bringing it up because it’s a completely different Sukhoi platform)
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don’t talk about something u don’t know then (like anything russian for example).
“SPICE 250 hasn’t being tested in EFT, it shouldn’t be remove” lol
didn’t u say earlier that all nations should have fake weapons if 1 nation has fake weapons? Gaijin is doing a cute progress giving the most undertiered nation a Mach 2.2 metal pole.
AGM-179 (IR)
it doesn’t even exist, it’s a proposal for an IR guided Joint-Air-Ground-Missile
USA mainly supported the idea of Lockheed with their SAL seeker and Raytheon (which created the IR seeker) decided not to participate and just use their “IR seekers on the 179 if the US needed a FnF version”.
so basically the missile u’re using in ur Apache isn’t even real, it’s a proposal for an IR guided missile just like the Kh-38MT.
i bet u can actually find a footage of an AGM-179 (IR) being launched by an AH-64 nowdays.
They are compatible since if they are with kh38ml. They are compatible with kh38mt.
Spice bomb for eft has been only show on expo just like the kh38mt seeker.
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Issue: they aren’t compatible with any Kh-38 model lol
Any plane who uses any kind or kh38 can use any model of kh38.
They literally have the same body / fire control system
Yeah, that’s Su-25SM3, and the Su-34. Not SM, not SM2, etc etc.
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And su35 and su30sm2 who uses su35 avionics.
Only loser here is the su30sm and su30mkm
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You’re confusing it with the MiG-35 me thinks. I haven’t heard of the Su-35 being compatible with the Kh series.
I literally put a ? there and said maybe i really dont know what else you want me to do lol
And btw i do know that the 38MT is fake and the LMUR is unrealistically overperforming over its competitors
The fact that youre making "maybe hasnt been tested " and “maybe doesnt exist at all” equivalents is so funny
I very much did not, thanks for asking.
Tri mode seeker + Gaijin not liking MMW radar seekers
Citation needed.
And Rafael brochures, and Diehl brochures and it generally being modular.
Even mig35 and 29m series use it
FTFY
(they added the MT in March of 2024, the advanced SPAA’s were only added in June of 2025)
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Su-30SM2 does not use Su-35 avionics.
Shout out to gaijin for denying the OLS-35 bug report though, despite the fact they didn’t see the conflicting issues of an Su-30SM2 using optronic designed to work alongside a specific radar…
We don’t have them in WT tho :p
Red missile are not fake as @kizvy confirmed many time.
Fair, but I don’t see a seeker there so I’m assuming it’s a radar/inertial version of the missile? Wasn’t red also “training”?
Not even fire control system ? Many sources said that the upgraded are bases on su35 avionics.
Now its confirmed that not the radar or the engine are comming from su35. That leave us with defense and fire control systems.
No what i mean is that if a plane use any kind of kh38. Its can uses all variants of it.
Red missile are mostly showcase and testing missiles
i still want my CM pods for the my Su-30SM2 ;(
Wont get it since the sm2 in game does not exist irl lmao