Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

As an extremely rare vehicle with huge cost behind it, but every Russian jet has Kh-38MT basically…

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It shouldn’t be able to counter IRIS-T at all, that system is only good up to gen 3 seekers, whereas the IRIS-T seeker is a gen 5 seeker with home-on-jam capability.

Gaijin casually overlooked that on the front page of the brochure of the DLIRCM though, as it is a superior hyperdeadly hypereffective russiian design of hyperdeath that magically deflects even 3+ missiles at the same time despite only having two laser sources.

Out of ALL of these, the only “fake” stuff is:
Yak-141’s armament (completely fine addition because otherwise it would be at a stupid low br with only guns)

su30mkm got the double rail r77-1 and kh38mt.

idk where you get that ideo where they dont have good / never produce weapons.

Eurofighter not suppose to have spice bomb / one of the nation doesnt even have the aesa radar for the eurofighter / prototypes tank that represent like 30% of the us tree / plane that never existed like the f-16 on japan tree and many more

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In the second link it literally says “Performance is based on calculations” on the bottom of the second page.

I don’t know what is wrong with first link it dosn’t opens for me but it says XF5F-1 in the link which is other plane i guess but i can’t see what is in the page it self.

PS. It worked and it’s about XF5F-1 and XFL-1 which is different planes.

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Yeah they exist but they did not see any service or actually went into production.

Which is applied to every nation in the game , the original was stated that 80-90% of the soviet tech tree is fake so… Lmao ?

If we talking real life then because germany was about to die at that point and both the Maus and the E-100 were gonna be extremely shit tier tank if those thing were able to go into production.

If we talking game then it pricing can be attributed to a lot of stuff. One major thing is the rarity of the vehicle and the playerbase influencing it pricing.

And yeah only hull exist , it is not even a fully made porotype mind you. The one we have in game is 70% fake. Considering by the time they found the remain of the thing it was a incomplete hull iirc. Could be wrong but doesn’t matter anyway.

Didn’t know Su-9 get Kh-38MT.

and in what war deployed?? is placed in service?

But they exist ? Are you new to warthunder ? Gaijin policy clearly said that as long as the thing were built or even partly built it is enough to be put in the game.

Given Cold War is race where people trying to pump out as much shit as possible for a war that didn’t happen of course everyone have something running around back then that didn’t make it into service. But they work and that good enough for Gaijin.

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Gaijin denied weapons before because of that…

But sure, lets keep it in the game, but nerf it so that it can’t actually target MBTs, because in real life its seeker wouldn’t be able to.

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This is what a thermal camera with mK value of 250 looks like.

In game, MTs seeker performs more like this:

2nd gen thermal camera’s have on average ~100mK sensitivity:

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So MTs seeker is on par/worse than 1st gen thermal cameras, not the case in War Thunder now tho, is it? You wouldn’t be able to tell whether something is even a target beyond 2km’s with such a seeker.

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wtf is this excuse?

didn’t know Yak-15P had Kh-38MT at 6.3, lol.

KT 10.5cm, Panther II & Coelian have left the chat *

if the missile is able of locking a target at such distances, then it would basically work.

Ya taking a lesson from the other guy and strawmanning now? :D

wtf is this excuse?

That you don’t see it every single game, deciding matches singlehandedly, like with the Kh-38MT jets lmao. Comparing the two on the basis of “not-existing” is quite frankly idiotic. When was the last time you saw an E-100 in an actual match? I’ll wait.

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Stay on topic. Any further off topic comments will be punished. If you have disagreements, then talk about them in PM’s, not here.

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Literally since you cant research them anymore

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You talking Russian Jet. I am taking your own word meaning “Every russian jet” as in all thing with an jet engine on it in the Soviet tech tree. You calling people strawman just because people understand what you wrote but you yourself don’t ?

The Kh-38MT doesn’t singlehandedly deciding match on it own. At least not anymore with the new SPAA. Why are you yapping so much about vehicle existing or not in a thread about balancing a nation ? It literally offer no solution to the topic beisde “A nation bad cause it have something that I believe to be fake” ? Go to other thread bro , surely you will find one that fit your belief

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Because the main reason why russian tanks dont need a buff is the strenght of russian CAS. And 50% of that strenght comes from a weapon that doesnt exist and the other 50% comes from a weapon that has an unrealistic, unfair advantage over its competitors.

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Holy copium, do agree RU have a good amount of advantage but saying one half is from fake stuff and the other half is from even more unrealistic stuff is just straight up cope.

OP only asked for some reload buff ,which would not change much in the bigger picture , not asking for anything else btw

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Is it? russian top tier CAS without the KH38MT is a fat nothingburger and the MI28NM would be way less special if all other AGMs got proper loft.

Yeah but it would still be a buff for a tree that generally doesnt need it due to equipment thats not tanks

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That a massive cope lol. Even before the KH38MT people already complaining about other russian CAS. Can’t be this serious lmao. Today problem will be replaced the moment it gone

But thread asking for tank
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Could talk about other stuff but using one evil to snuff out something else is just peak copium. Maybe go buy the other weeb pack bro. I don’t think this is for you

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