I haven’t played top tier Russia in a hot minute tbf but when last played the T80BVM(and 80Us) was the only thing i really cared to touch MBT wise and looking at the T-90Ms being the obvious idiot traps that they are I suppect that hasnt changed much.
That is exactly my point. Tanks like the Abrams, Leo 2A7/122 fit the WT gameplay loop much better (some people consider this meta).
As much as I hate to admit it, the T-90M isn’t bad perse. Even though it’s easily one of the worst 12.7 MBTs in game, it’s still usable with enough effort put in.
Tbh the autoloader repair is really fast xd and well, u can repair it wich will take a max of 20 seconds, if your loader get smashed by an apfsds then u will have to go to a base wich is kinda hard to do when almost everyone is positioned or even worse, when your team,mostly US teams left the match after get killed one time mostly because they were wallet warrios with a single tank to use so u end in a 5-6 players against 15-20 xD
Speed back in the day was meta when it matter that who get in position or shoot first → but after they gave RU tanks the penetration RNG model, its just one sided game.
Being bailed out by RNG once every while doesn’t make a tank good. Survivability onion.png
Maybe you did not consider that the reload on T-90M is atrocious? And you yourself did not do much research either considering that BTA4 on Oplot is even worse. T-90M/VT4/WZ1001 have the worst firepower at top tier regardless.
Mobility + reload + reverse + depression are all factors in positioning/overall meta. T-90M is poor in every single category.
You lack the skill to properly assess these vehicles’ capabilities.
You did not understand my point. Don’t get shot, especially in the side. The only area you “should” be getting shot is the turret, and even that should be minimal.
It excels at camping limited specific spots in the back of the map, and thats it. Spoiler alert, that means the tank is bad. Any tank that is restricted to specific playstyles, especially irrelevant ones, isn’t good.
Its 12.3. It is more than worthy of being mentioned in a top tier debate.
You are just being petty at this point to save face.
Ah yes famous onion rule, too bad theory doesn’t always work like that and you will get shot from side from time to time in practice, in those cases T-90M offers one of the best if not the best side protection.
Not really, T-90M can excel in middle range and even in CQC if you know what you’re doing, you just explained that you cannot make the T-90M work which is a perfect example not every tank suits your gameplay style. That doesn’t mean it bad tho.
Last time I checked top tier was 12.7 not 12.3, so no.
Not as desperate as you considering your “defines”.
Both are useless mbts, furthermore ugly as f. vt4 has horrible ass gun handling especially when the barrel is in the front hull. It’s also slower than the 12.3 ztz99.