Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

No its not.

Just because certain people like you who claims mobility is everything doesnt mean BVM is revelant in overall.

Not everyone worships mobility like you guys do, some of us prefer actual armor,survivability,awareness, multitask capabilities which is why I perform better in 90M compare to 80Bvm.

So yeah your personal opinion doesnt define anything.

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The Spall Liners on the VT4s do not even cover the Autoloader nor the full Side; they do absolutely nothing on them because the VT4s and ZTZs have zero Armour at the Side. Armour existent Armour they have is at the UFP and Front Turret and even there you have lot of weakspots: playing the VT4A1 i even got pen’d through the Turret cheeks/ERA multiple times and anything that pens Chinese MBTs is one Hit with others you could survive.

Mobility is good but 6.7sec reload and no side armour, big LFP sucks for city maps and with zero gun depression makes you unable to utilize a lot of larger Maps. like with leopard u got long reload too but there u have great armour and gun depression making them infinitely much better. or japans type-x/10 has paper armour too but quick reload / good depression makes it such an better tank too.

i have an ace grinded on the 99A and it does feel good to play but they just arent good

Yep,solid yes, but before the turret basket abrams were actually really but really good, i dont have the new sep abrams so i hope i can experience them soon!! Rn im researching the m10 booker because im curious about it

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Hell yeah!!

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The tank that also has worse armor, very limited first stage firepower, huge weakspots and reverse gear that will not come in handy 90 percent of the time.

Not to mention due to most maps design depression isn’t event an issue for Russian tanks if you know where to pick a spot, guess you dont.

As I’ve said your claims doesnt mean anything to me, try to gaslight someone else with your poor arguments.

Simply wrong. Spall liners on VT4’s saved my ass many times, coverage might not be the best but saying they are utterly useless is far from the reality.

Booker is a little devil that performs even at top tier, you’re gonna enjoy it.

Literally what is this even supposed to be?

I could say the same for having your autoloader taken out.

Generally the idea is to not get shot in the first place.

You’re arguing against an imaginery person here, we are just talking about mobility.

This completely depends on how you define mobility.

The T90M has a better power to weight ratio (20.2 vs 22.2)

The Challenger 2 has way faster reverse and neutral steering.

It just depends on how what you want, I personally cannot stand playing a top tier tank with a 4kph reverse, but some people might not mind it.

Mobility ofc isn’t everything, but it’s one of the most important aspects of a tank (both forwards as well as reverse)
Especially in this meta

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And mobility is part of overall performance and survivability, whether you like it or not.

Reverse speed comes in handy in sticky situations which you shouldn’t even be here in the first place, worse things is in those situations you will be most likely get either cornered or crippled which reversing will not gonna change anything at all.

Neutral steering on Chally 2 is so bad that any T-80 and 90M can turn faster without it.

I got all Chally models, I know how they behave pretty well and neutral steering isn’t their strong part.

If you only care about mobility then yes T-90M doesn’t suit you, that doesn’t mean its a bad tank like some people portrait in here.

Personally I do pretty well in my T-90M, better than my Chally2’s actually.

This argument has never made any sense.

  1. Leclerc has an autoloader, thus not relevant to your comment.
  2. Challenger 2 without a loader means it has suffered two crew losses (commander, loader), if a Russian tank has suffered 2 crew losses it sends the player back to the respawn screen.

I’ve had 10+ kill matches in my M1’s after I was shot and reduced to 2 crew.

I’d rather have a 10s reload than be dead.

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What meta? You and certain people always claims meta is all about speed while in practice its not.

BMPT was the best example in this case, despite having same mobility that T-90M has it performed better than almost anything.

Meta is more focused around versatility.
Combo of good mobility, decent armour (mostly in the turret) and firepower (shell + reload), gun depression is also important

Survivability is also important (this is focused around internal layout of crew and ammo)

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PUMA 2.0

It was simply undertiered on addition

The stats clearly show a meta though. Just compare the new Abrams to the new T-90M.

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Hmm, the more versatile tank with good mobility, the best firepower in the game, great internal layout, gun depression and solid-great armour does better than the vehicle that is worse at everything besides hull armour and turret go spin

Why am I not surprised

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I still need to get the Pantsir SM-SV for next season sqb but my god I hate playing top tier Russia so much.

I do not like T-series tanks very much.
My T-90M arena has parts and maybe fpe unlocked and that’s it

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