Ah sothe IRIAF being basically FIRST and ONE AND ONLY plane with 50km FNF long range not-reqired-visual-contact munitions at the time didnt break the balance against ALL other nations?
Try better copium next time bruh.
BMPT wasnt on its grounds once released so it was moved immidiately, yet you claim “russian bias” all round while their bias gets nerfed to ground in SECONDS. Unlike muh nato suffer bias, which was IRIAF, which was PUMA (didnt get nerfed for half a year lol), the strv122 which are still same BR that other top tiers desite being blatantly better, ect ect.
Okay?
US has 20 planes at the br bracket which all can easilly counquer the air and bomb ground targets yo ashes, yet USSR only has US IMPORTED thunderbolt and YaK-9 which got moved up in BR. Lol. Them SU-6s arent even in question anymore after the 37mm damage nerf.
Weak argument. Most top-tier maps feature small towns or are just too small in general, with flat terrain specifically designed to favor Russian tanks. These maps are tiny even by WWII tank standards, let alone for modern ones—and that’s on you guys. You just have to press W to win and you can’t even do that? Massive skill issue.
I’d rather be in an immortal BMPT that destroys everyone’s barrel in less than a second from 10km away and kills with ATGMs. After getting 5 kills rushing, I’d pull the Mi-28NM and end the game for everyone, since that thing can’t be shot down by anything other than the strongest SPAA in the game (Pantsir), and it locks and destroys everything regardless of cover with a guaranteed kill rate. Oh, the heli died? Then there’s the Su-30 with fictional Kh-38MTs, lmao. You guys cry way too much while playing the best nation in the game, which has the best tanks, the best SPAA, and by far the best CAS…
Getting beaten by a BMPT in a long range duel is certainly one of the decisions of all time.
Sure I agree that it’s damage model and ammo rack situation is BS and that this is why it’s currently busted, but if you get beaten by one in a NATO MBT at long range you have already made multiple mistakes.
The primary issue is that these cannons are completely unrealistic. It is possible to add ammunition with 999mm of penetration as Gaijin intends, but the level of accuracy provided is entirely fabricated and lacks any factual basis. This isn’t about being defeated in-game; it’s about being forced to remain stationary for 20 seconds due to mechanics that defy reality, much like the LDIRCM helicopter systems. This game is becoming increasingly fictional and fantasy-like with every single update.
The vehicle is completely fictional in Gaijin’s interpretation.
It doesn’t possess the armor it does in game - IRL.
It doesn’t possess the stand off capability in game - IRL.
It doesn’t possess the modules it has in game - IRL.
It doesn’t possess the mobility it has in game - IRL.
It’s combat performance in game does not even come close to IRL.
It needs to be nerfed into oblivion to maintain balance. It is more akin to a W40k vehicle than it is its actual real life counterpart. As such its destroying balance and integrity of the game.
Start adding W40k titans for NATO - then lets talk about how the BMPT doesn’t need massive adjustment downward.
Of course at the start of the patch there is bias! New premiums are ALWAYS better then previous ones, thats the F2P reality. But that applies to evey other machinery.
Nah bro, not after the entire 1.0 BR difference. T20 situation is crazy
dont see that. See that they admitted the stupidity of BMPT at 10.3)
For that time they nerfed it with BR much already, lol. Same time T58 didnt even get same treatement in BR increases, and received same treatement in NOT doing anything about its HESH damage model.
Because its mainly premium problem. Tho that being said, tech tree stuff is also sometimes comes broken. With BMPT-72 its because its obviously same as BMPT, but then the puma or strv122 come to mind.
How does that excuse a blatantly broken and biased damage model tho?
You mean the BR changes that so far havent had the desired effect apparently?
True the T58 should be moved up but its not a T58 HESH specific problem, all high calibre HE is modeled like that.
Is it tho? I feel like the amount of broken new premiums is not different to the amount of broken tech tree stuff.
With the small difference that neither the Puma nor the 122 were broken due to reality bending decisions by Gaijin, rather the opposite actually. The new Pantsir is a much better comparison to the Puma/122.
Well it dropped the KD ratio from 4 to 1.5 which is pretty much an awaited result
The fact that some “western” audence desires that tank to be as garbage as other T-72s but at higher BR isnt a factor to consider.
No it isnt, it just needs HESH reworked. In fact ALL tanks need the HESH reworked, but somehow the T58s hesh is better than FV4005 hesh makes me believe it is artificially stronger, same as BMPT
Well from my perspective it is like that, idk
well why. PUMA was broken because it had survivability of current BMPT not having even half of its protection, and 122 is OP because gaijin decided its “blocks” are to stop weaker APFSDSes entirely. They couldve worked the same as British or US NERA blocks)
Need i to remind you only gaijin decides the protection of parts?
Oh it is intended, they actively changed it to be that way on dec 30th. The intention is quite clear to make that shitbox a lot better than it should be.
Theyre moving it up again soo tho so apparently so far they did not have the desired result.
This “western audience” wants the tank to be realistic, the fact that realistic in this case means garbage is entirely on the guys who built it.
Im gonna reserve judgement on that until someone c who played both vehicles extensively can attest to that.
Thats insane cap, the Puma has an unmanned turret but one that could be disable with one shot and the hull of the Puma doesnt even meet Stanag 4569 like it should and isnt covered in magic ERA.
I know that only Gaijin decides the protection of parts otherwise we wouldnt be in a situation where western armor development apparently stopped in the 90s
well yes the result they await is 1.0 kd ratio, but the tendency is there
the “realistic” in the western mind is to be oneshotted with anything hitting any part of it, not have penetration to pen anything and no accuracy to hit anything, i read the thread i know what they want)
the “realistic” in question is survivable, thus it is survivable ingame.
HAS is wrong reasoning to tell about what WAS back in the day. Back in the day there were no cannon that penned puma and disabled it with single shot, not even mentioning destroying it. Nowadays its also nerfed to the ground, any shot to turret burning half the munition it has. Which wasnt the case back then)
yeah basically it. Gameplay reasons, and thats all
Idk how true that one is since I don’t play air that much
BVR?
Lol yeah right “immediately” 11.7 might not even balance it
I think you mixed bmpt with puma right? You meant to write bmpt instead of puma otherwise you’re not correct
See. salty that while having best cas best SPAA best heli + bmpt
But not a br bracket breaking mbt I mean how much spoon feeding does gaijin have to do for y’all to be satisfied
Which nation has an imaginary mach 2.2 fnf missile more than double of all other nations
While that said also having an spaa that can have 96 missiles doesn’t matter with the stats because the fastest munition you’ll intercept will not go faster than mach 0.9
To make the bias more visible the radar scanning angles on the pantsir was considered impossible by gaijin when it came to non Russian vehicles for example Spyder
Also Spyder still has a mechanical searching radar even tho it’s not irl but when it came to buks launchers gaijin happily gave it elec fast searching radar
Also the lmur having 2.4 more impact angle meaning 4 .compared to other fnf missiles which is only 1.6
so yeah Russia does get special treatments while other nations vehicle will get nerfs and br increases together especially when it comes to non premium vehicles best example the puma , any spike Carrier
As a ground forces person im in literate “dgaf” about how the air forces are great if one simply cant get enough points to use one because of garbage tanks.
Tho its not the case as, same can be said in return, “nato has greatest ground forces yet cries about biased air of USSR”. SO thats not a great argument whatsoever.
