Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Do your homework

It’s still an improvement, after all you still need to actually hit the target to achieve an effect, no?

So you would make a claim with no proof? I can at least back up what I’m saying while providing receipts.

Improvement that’s not needed >n the first place.

It’s been posted on forums several times. I could but i don’t want to im not a person in charge of managing sources and modeling in wt.
You can find it yourself. Nii stali site. The devs are well aware of this

A neat concept… As much is like it and find it funny to use in WT… it will be a CAS-pocalips if added :D

Its dispenser comes in; unguided (CBU-97) , guided(CBU-105) and Glide-Kit(AGM-154B) variants, and can be carried in large quantities (each dispenser has 10x BLU-108/B’s which have 4 “Skeets” each).
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It’s always nice to have something like this in the back-pocket as a trump card, since the CBU-87 and -100 can only get you so far in terms of one-upping SAM systems.

at this point we’re in dire need of a rework for the GRB/GSB, from the ground up… the current mode and maps dont work with the modern weapons and system that we allready have, not to mention thing like this…

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It’s almost as if they can just spawn CAS and wipe the entire opposing team out with ordinance to spare from an absurd distance, with sim teams being even SMALLER than grb. Good thing that’s not the case!!! /s

All that really needs work is that the SP cost tiering of A2G ordnance is really skewed. Especially for “competent” players.

Basically;

SP gains need to be Completely rebalanced (consider splitting it into multiple disparate pools for vehicle types, adjusting gains, and introduce a mercy point award for Lost hulls to permit further contributions to a post-facto CAP flight, or light strike loadouts to retain player’s effectiveness)

  • Baseline airframe cost should be reduced somewhat, (or append a Basic CAP Fighter to Lineups, similar to the Naval mode )

  • A2A Missiles should be completely free, if not taken with anything other than basic ordnance.

  • The cost dumb ordnance (e.g. iron Bombs, Napalm & Rockets etc.) should be reduced

  • MCLOS / Anti-Radiation should be somewhat higher (but not that much higher) to provide a specialized option for counter-SAM duties (can be hard-countered, but opens up counter-play and responses).

  • SACLOS & Laser guided ordnance at a higher baseline cost

  • F&F ordnance should be scaled based on Speed, Seeker performance and warhead TNTe.

  • GPS & DL(post-release MITL control) capabilities should further increase cost.

  • Each additional pair of Missiles taken should exponentially increase SP costs, to encourage loadout diversity or downloading some stations. to facilitate the use of custom loadouts.

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This is fine… but currently we’re useing snipers in a phone booth fight… we need bigger changes
we need bigger maps
we need maps that are not just 1-2 lanes (MOBa style).
we need other objectives on those maps, beside “capture the D point”
we need dynamic objectives that add something new to the map (faster and more accuret artilery support/large tactical smokescreans covern the team movement and location/AWACS support/EW jamming enemy radars/GNSS/IR lock etc etc).
we need diffrent spawn location for tanks/IFVs/SPAAs and SAMs, not all clumped together (and sniping eachother from the spawns)
… and more… those are just what i came up with at prima vista.

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Nah - just spin off a separate exclusively RU vs RU team server for a few months and let them duke it out. Genuine balance will thus be achieved as both sides Wunderwaffe cancel each other out.

The rest of us can be left in peace and enjoy the game. Win win?

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That’s still on you to provide the proof. Just saying it’s been posted on the forums b4 isn’t enough

You’ll be back in no time to complain lol. That is the thing with WT, you take out something that is strong and something else will take it’s place.

  • You remove the Su-30SM? Rafale will just farm you instead.

  • You take out the Mi-28NM? Have fun getting dunked by the AH-64E.

  • Take out the BUK? SAMP, Sky Sabre and IRIS-T say hello.

Take out the Russian MBTs? Nothing will change as only people with skill issues usually struggle against Russian MBTs.

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That’s a risk I’m willing to take. Top tier has been ruined by the Kh-38/LMUR spam - such that I no longer bother all that much anymore with it. I’m probably not alone and I’m not a terrible player by any means.

I think the argument ‘you only suffer vs. Russia if you lack skill’ is an intellectually lazy one.

The Mi-28 has a missile-shield bubble that is IMMUNE to certain categories of weaponry. Such a lack of skill I know. I should just outflank them in my ground vehicle, on our small maps. Like dur!

The LMUR and KH can outrange most of the systems designed to negate CAS. Again, it’s probably a lack of skill that means I can’t send missiles further than the game allows me to…

One of the IRL predators of helicopters can’t even get a radar lock on a helo in WT. Obviously I need to get much better at the game because that’s a ‘me’ issue. How unskilled and hopeless must I be in order to require a radar lock to use a Fox 3 from more than point blank range!

Think man…

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Hah Probably applies to every tanks including up armored Leopard because all it takes is learn to aim eh? If that how it works for you.
About 64E ofc but how many missile it fire before it kill single MBT if isn’t lucky one.

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Well - obviously it’s a lack of skill on our part for not making the Hellfires loft and strike their targets at the IRL angle. =)

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It has not, the problem is once more made bigger than it is.

Which you didn’t in the first place, but it sounds more dramatic now i guess.

Yes, totaly unique to Russia, but in case of the others with an even better shield bubble, it’s okay.

LMURS are annoying, i agree, open your eyes for helicopters and you wont have a problem, they are easy spottable.
KH38 is an issue of the past.

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“It has not, the problem is once more made bigger than it is.”
Says you. One of the contributors to that problem… The amount of forum threads (which can be seen as a barometer) don’t tend to be complaining about hellfires do they?

“Which you didn’t in the first place, but it sounds more dramatic now i guess.”
Check again Ivan.

“Yes, totaly unique to Russia, but in case of the others with an even better shield bubble, it’s okay.”
Mi-28MN IRCM is far superior to that on AH-series or others.

“LMURS are annoying, i agree, open your eyes for helicopters and you wont have a problem, they are easy spottable.
KH38 is an issue of the past.”
That’s a spurious argument and you know it. KH-38 remains an issue and I’m not sure how far you need to stick your head into the ground not to come across it. In fact, after the first few minutes - you might as well spend your entire match trying to duck LMURS and KH-38s. It only takes one or two players to send a lot of stuff your way and you can’t spend every minute looking up at the sky.

Basically, your opinion is contrary to mine. However it isn’t any more or less valid. Where the difference truly is - is that lots of players have raised the issues I have above. You can try and argue that only bad players complain about RU toys breaking top tier - but that isn’t the case. It screams ‘I cannot argue objectively with the empirical data available to me - ergo I’ll just accuse everyone who demurs as being an idiot.’

Such intellect.

When WRs mysteriously show an increase for RU TT I suppose you’ll have to come up with some new contrarian arguments, won’t you…

How am i a contributor to this problem ?

Threads about Russian bias, thats something new.

Ah now i am Ivan, lmao.
I checked again, all Rank 8 games, such experience, such many view points:
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Nope

Funny that i don’t have this issue then.

Still trying to ride that horse, i see.

We will see when most players got bored of the new toys and play something else again.

@Surbaissemaxxing People abusing the flag system again.

Let’s turn the tides.
You play with your GROUND team against: An artillery battery with ballistic computers, GMARS and HIMARS and else. You’ll meet more modern KF51 and SEPV3 tanks. Panavia Tornado will be able to carry Taurus as F&F long-range missiles… Airspace will be supervised by close-range MANTIS-Flugabwehrsystem and long-range Patriot. FCS (Future combat system) will be deployed to top tier NATO tanks. Smart ammo such as DM702 SMArt and M1147 AMP will be added, making tanks such as the Panzerhaubitze 2000 even effective against heavy top tier tanks.

There’s so much funny stuff Gaijin won’t add.
Still think its fun to play like that? Spawnkilled by stuff you can’t even see nor intercept?