notice how the M60a2 has:
Smoke launchers
A 3 sec faster reload,
Double the turret traverse
More Pen, with better HE effects
Laser Range finder
AA HMG that can somehow go pretty much vertical.
T-10M
Benefits from 2x 14.5mm machine guns
And an APHE round
overall both are very similar in: mobility, and armor, but given the trolly armor, arguably better shell, and double the turret traverse, laser range finder, the M60A2 is the clear winner.
Im just wondering where that assessment comes from when you havent played most Rank 8 nato CAS, rank 8 nato SPAA, rank 7 Naval thats not russian, Rank 7 nato helicopters. And since you didnt even give an example i couldnt even think myself whether you might be right or not.
Quite literally everyone says that 2A7s are the best tank what are you even on about?
The fact that your statement above is based almost solely on Rank 8 Russia experience and you completely fail to give any example how russia is “worse than everyone else in every regard” especially with the addendum “due to player complaints”
Yes as @Ge_Low-psn said, the LMUR is more reliable, both are hit or miss though. Your more likely to score a kill with LMUR given it’s what, 15 KG HE, vs the Tandem 4.71~ KG HE atgm.
The United Aircraft Corporation has owned Mikoyan, Sukhoi, and others since 2007.
This partially explains why Sukhoi aircraft are more universal now, and universal parts are being made for them.
@kitsune_qq
All ten tech trees get the photograph treatment.
Apache, F-111F and F-111C, Mirage 2000, Tornado, F-2A, various F-16s to name a few all had changes done to them based on photographs.
You know how to read stats? Better go read again, 4 nations top tier in naval.
3 for helis,
4 for Air (also, I love NATO cas, and still do even after they added the Su-30SM).
I love when people spit out random crap, even though my profile literally has all the elements you say I don’t have 😂
Literally haven’t seen anyone talk about Leo’s in a long time.
I’m sorry I was being general… you know, I do have a life to live, instead of spelling out every single common sense thing to you. Or do you truly not understand common sense?
And yes, due to player complaints most things get shot up in br or nerfed.
Great example: T-54 (any model) decent armor (can be killed by a king tiger frontally), decent gun, decent mobility, absolutely terrible turret traverse, reload, and gun handling for that br of now 7.7 / 8.0
They were balanced at 7.7 for all of them.
And before you say “wElL YoU saID tHeY oNLy DiE tO TiGeRS…” there are many things capable of frontally killing them.
I meant less effective, auto correct may have shot me in the foot there.
But also, the m60a2 gets ATGMs which aren’t the best, but aren’t bad either.
12 secs gives you a far better chance, with a round you know is 90% likely to pen. (Yes I get sometimes damage can be iffy on the HEAT, but crazy over pressures do occur in addition to usually 1 tapping, but HEAT is also WAYY better vs light vehicles)
F-111F/C were only shown in manuals to have 4x 9Ls.
Crews thankfully ignored the manuals and re-used the sideboard store positions on the outer sweep pylons for 9Ls and photographs were taken of them.
Mirage 2000 available manuals are notorious for not showing loadouts in general.
Getting Magic 2s on the wet pylons took photographs from a magazine publication.
Those 20+ bug reports could be precedent now for estimating if pylons can be compatible with weapons or not.
The probability of all 4 Mi-28NM pylons being usable for LMURs is significantly higher than not, as an example.
Well then either youre lying, statshark is lying or we have a different conception on what top tier is
Then you must have missed every tank discussion since 2023
You were moving goalposts and didnt give any examples. Funnily enough if your inital statement was not general and just about tanks you would have a point
So your great example on how russia is worse than everyone in every regard due to player complaints is a random 8.0 vehicle that got moved up in BR (which happens all the time based on stats)? Damn i guess Germany is also worse than everyone in every regard due to player complaints, because Gaijin moved up the Begleitpanzer AND the Coelian recently.
yes, if there is a clear photograph of a weapon on the pylon that is not for purely display purposes it can be added but that is not applicable for Mi28 getting 8 LMURs because there are only photos of it with them on the outer stations
Stats do play a part, but I’ve rarely if ever seen a pos kd t-54
Meanwhile pos kd Beglit and Coelian are all over. The 57mm on the Beglit is legit insane, it’s solid AP 57mm often one taps.
nope.
never was, probably never will be able to do so. that goes far back from time of ussr, where there were only rockets in inner pylons… for all helicopters
I’m all for having Mi-28NM at a lower BR than AH-64E with less LMURs, because it doesn’t impact me. I’m not going to get the Mi-28NM until like 2027 at the earliest.
I’m getting AMTSh-VN right now, and after that will be the new Ka-52 added soon.
@kitsune_qq
You can’t apply USSR standards to modern day industry and computing standards.
Especially when Rostec wants to export products whenever possible.
