Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Yeah it’s personal preference, the LMUR’s are more likely
To one shot. But the problem is when hunting anti airs, most missiles are easy to intercept, and i don’t know if the anti airs are bad or if it’s a skill issue but i have been consistently killing buks and pantsirs with my ah64e.

Having 16 missiles just overwhelms the anti airs and they can’t really do anything abt it. And that is where i think the LMUR lacks, only having 8 of them isn’t always enough.

But to be honest i don’t know if i can have a say in this as i don’t have the mi28nm

Maybe, but you have to remember we’re not dealing with parallax, nor are we trained to shoot at the first thing we see [turret usually].

16 missiles to kill a singular BUK system.
Well yes the same as if you dropped 20 GBU-39s on it you get the kill but have expended all your ordinance.

its extremely easy to kill a buk , if u hover u are pretty much invisible to its missile(most of the time). buk will waste a few missiles to intercept the heli which simply ends up wasting its missile and u have 16 Jagm-MR vs 10 missiles on the buk. even if they manage to intercept 10 jagms with 10 missiles (which is also unlikely). u can easily kill them. all radar guided sams are weak atm. i have used the lmurs and its kinda easy to kill samp/t , sky sabre , CLAWs , (but in rare occasions they are able to hit me but its random). they need to fix/buff radar guided SAMs. its also easier to intercept 8x slower lmurs vs 16x jagm-mrs.

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The same can be said when IRIS-T or Skysabre or SAMP-T cannot intercept these helicopters.
DIRCM combined with Gaijin not modelling the Doppler effect from helicopter rotors.

LMURs have a top attack profile and can do splash damage to multiple systems

It’s not like the GBU-39s are good for much else in GRB besides killing AA.

I have killed 1 MBT with them in the past and that was more luck than anything else.

I agree, they are apparently useable now with more multi vehicle systems that don’t move

i would say slm , claws has a higher chance of hitting helis with LDIRCM than the other helis. some times u can spam enough ir missiles and they just get through. its also easier to intercept 8x lmurs in slm , samp/t , sky sabre with 16 missiles vs intercepting 16x (slightly faster) jagm-mrs in buk m3 with 12 missiles. (even pantsir is limited to 12 missiles).

No i didn’t say that… I only said that the ah64e has 16 missiles making it easier, it usually takes 4-5 as the buk shoots down some of the first ones, and then u have missiles left over to fire on easier targets such as, pantsirs and 2s6 which are common in top tier.

The only reason I think this is because of some pretty gnarly pictures from a certain conflict of some vehicles surviving some extreme angle shots to side armor including stuff like Bradley

Dude it’s 15kg he, unless they’re all touching, you won’t damage much else

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Imagine tinnitus and louder shells smacking your tank, I think we would all be covering our ears to auto cannons fire smacking us lol

Ding ding ding ding ding (adamant metal) ding ding ding ding ding

@AlvisWisla the dimensions of dual rack r77 is wrong in game that’s why it looks like it fits, it’s too narrow and should be wider
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WrDpvZB3JfKV

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Commander: yells something to gunner
Gunner: hears the sounds of his ears bleeding

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You have to prove that the dimensions of the R-77s are wrong, not the dual rack; the dual rack being fixed will not change their ability to be mounted on at least Su-30SM and Su-35 aircraft.
Cause the IRL positioning of R-77s is IDENTICAL to the positioning in-game.
We also know that Su-35 and Su-30 aircraft have identical spacing between engines as Su-30SM and Su-35 use identical center-line sections for the underside of the aircraft.

You can extrapolate backward that Su-27 has identical spacing between the engines if Su-30 does from Su-30SM, and Su-30SM does from Su-35. AKA working backwards from known variables and knowing that Su-30 is a derivative of the Su-27 platform with no changes to the center-line position, and we know Su-30SM and 35 have know difference, and Su-30SM is a derivative of the Su-30 series of aircraft.

It’s not photographic proof that Su-27SM can use those racks like Su-30SM and Su-35 can, but it is a very solid evidence based argument.

Russian bias is real. Anyone who says otherwise is a Russia main just following the Gaijin doctrine.

Best SAM? Russia.
Best CAS by far? Russia.
Best helo with a forcefield? Russia.

The USSR gets stuff with no proof it ever worked that way—hell, the Kh-38MT is a fairy-tale rocket. It basically exists on paper. Maus and Panther II are more real than the Kh-38MT; at least there are prototypes in museums.

Let’s talk about LMUR: it’s the first helo missile with a kind of top-attack.
Meanwhile PARs 3 LR, Spike, and JAGM have a real top-attack mode.
But western equipment is missing features and often doesn’t work properly in-game.

Buk-M3 isn’t fire-and-forget, yet in game it looks like a space-shuttle killer, while IRIS-T is missing tons of features. Even flares counter IRIS-T way too often. About the Mi-28 forcefield I don’t even want to start. Sure, there’s a chance to break an IRIS-T lock, but not like this in game. It often feels like the Mi-28 shrugs off Aster 30 as well. I have trouble hitting the Mi-28 with Aster 30—am I the only one? Funny thing: hitting the AH-64E works better.

Sure, USSR MBTs aren’t the absolute best, but they’re perfectly decent—far from bad. So why not give the Leopard 2A7V the ammo it actually uses? Russia gets its real ammo…

Think back a few years: which nation first had helos that could stand off outside the battlefield and fire rockets? And which nation got a proper counterpart first?

Russian bias is real. Period.

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Bro is (barely) negative K/D in the 2A7V, hard to take someone with a negative K/D in such a good tank seriously.

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this is russian game ,russsian company.you will get nothing to against with The Great Russia.you have to play rus and you will get the best game experience,why dont you do that? a host of player has done this,which can be prove by russia queue number covincingly : )

Best Sam: Germany.
Best Cas: Depends. EF/rafale eats su30’s and are more flexible compared to su30
Best Helo: Russia.
Best forcefield on helo: AH64E, MI28 and Z10ME.
Had just a game on MI28 and enemy had 64E. We were both 3K score on end, and did try to fire 18LMURS on that helo and none hit. Neither did Buk or Iris.