“MLOS AA has better LOS than HELI” ass take
Sorry, Skysabre.
We are actually selling parts for the Skyranger, thats why i had it in mind lmao.
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tbf I tend to prefer spawning F16C over F15E currently, and given it has the same kit and some of the advantages I feel like that would extend to F18E
F15E fm just feels bad to play, and not getting HARM hurts it, along with only getting 90cms
if the enemy team doesnt spawn AA F15E is better, but there is always too much AA up for it to be worth spawning
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The Fire and forget ordinance. The F-15E now has a load of of the small glide bombs and AGM-65 as a decent medium range missile. Doesnt the Israeli F-15 get a crazy amount of SPICE and AGM-65s being able to just fire and forget all that ordinance makes it potent.
Rafale still has ASM which are good and you can fire them off if they miss you are not directly at risk unlike options the (none German Typhoon has).
F/A-18 has those fire and forget missiles and a 6 HARMS. or AGM-65
Gripen has 16 SPICE bombs.
UK and Italian Typhoon get a total of 8 FnF weapons and they are glide bombs, while Brimstones in uncontested skies are good you are always at greater risk with even HSTVLs and 2S38s able to reliably snipe you while you try to guide a Brimstone.
I would have liked to have seen an IR work around for Brimstone or even a Brimstone 2 with IOG incorporated allowing a Typhoon to use them. Gaijin could have allowed Typhoon to use the ALARM or the 6 HARMs like it should have.
Now I am fine with Gaijin limiting payloads I think it is a good thing but then that should also be extended to the Su-30s. Su-30SM only allow 2 Kh-38s and if you want more you need to fly the bomber/strike version the Su-34.
This would overnight make strike versions more relevant rather than what we have in game.
luque please reconsider your takes man. i dont need to explain to you every aspect everytime again and again.
More Spices doesn’t make it more usefeull, you are not going to satuate anything with spices, because you would be exposed to long.
Brimstomes are actually the king of contested skies if you know what you are doing, has been since introduction.
Yes, if you have sleeping SPAA, they are very good. Otherwise it might as well be a glide bomb.
This game is not all about who has more f&f weapons.
So why are Kh-38Mts so much better than MLs?..Because you can fire more of them they are IR tracking and are fast.
Brimstone have never been fast you need to guide them and now since the Radar screen addition and Pantsir SV. But now the Pantsir kills the jet before the Brimstones hit and then shoots down the Brimstones.
You completely ignored the benefit of not having to fly 10ft off the deck, which in a Typhoon exposes you to ground fire that no other jet has to deal with.
ASM may not be as good but the Rafale can shoot them without the need to guide them.
Share with the class brother footage of 5+ kills of you with the Typhoon using Brimstones and show me how easy it is?
CAS is about who has the most weapons and the FnF at top tier is so important, I cannot believe this is even a discussion point. Look at the Helis take a top tier heli and use the Hellfire then use JAGM and you tell me which one you do better with.
Less time guiding weapons, lower exposure time more chance of surviving, because that is the most important thing keeping the aircraft safe. You can rearm and get more missiles and bombs you cannot replace the aircraft.
That’s unlucky.
I still find 12.7 enjoyable. CAS is there but not critically enough to ruin my 12.7 Abrams stats
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I played 13.0 ussr and I noticed they dont even bother with aa as if they know something. I couldnt even rack some kills with kh31pd. Only 1 kill which is nothing compared to what I got in mig27 with slower and more limited kh31p 112. They just spawn tanks and keep slaughtering soviets which not only play worse tanks but also struggle with using their brains.
are we really comparing these 2 missile ?
and the brims have iog which be shoot behinde cover and guide them last seconds
Sure that works but that just means that you’re doing something a FnF munition can also do but you’re doing it slower, potentially against less targets in the same timeframe and with more effort. The problem is not that using Brimstones can’t yield kills. The problem is that while you’re running one effective Brimstone engagement a Rafale for example can run multiple at the same time and then go on to do other stuff.
FnF is just inherently more flexible, easier and consistent to use in top tier compared to laser guidance.
I have nothing to proof to you and certainly wont record a video for you lmao.
Also i said if you know what you are doing and not it’s easy.
My loadout consists of only 3 brimstones anyway.
Everybody who knows what he is doing never used brimstones in long range attacks and guides them in 3rd person while already evading.
Having 8 or 21 SPICE bombs doesn’t make them more effective. You wont have time to drop them when SPAA is up and thats the case most of the time.
Not every plane has to play the same, the Typhoon is one of the most fun CAS planes to play, exactly because not every muppet knows how to do it and it actually requires skill (unlike KH38 carriers) and when you master it, it’s extremely effective.
They do and when you pop up that Pantsir has you tracked, you are playing this game like it was 4 updates ago bud. Brimstones are not it anymore.
Fnf munition doesnt launch with no lock. only if they have MITL system.
kh38 canot do it.
they are. never said they dont.
Fair enough, what aircraft do you use for Brimstones? Typhoon, Tornado or Gripen?
Guiding in 3rd person can work but not with the new Pantsir SV if it looks at you you are dead. If it is looking at something else you have a chance.
You dont need to fire them all you can send multiple ones to make the SAM intercept your missiles or bombs. The Typhoon used to be able to do this with the regular Pantsir as it had 12 missiles now the SV can have 40.
You do not stand a chance against it.
True but popping up with FnF munition and locking 2-3 targets is still similarly fast to the terminal guidance of a brimstone
Also you can just pop smokes, and disable search radar the moment you lock enemy. That way you become invulnerable to any smart munition including arm because they cant target k band afaik
I only speak for the Typhoon, brimstones can’t be used the same way on the Tornado because it’s to fat.
You have a choice to not engage a SV with Brimstones you know. EF has enough other weapons to deal with it.
Regular Pantsir you could just kill with Brimstones and there is nothing he can do about it when you do it right.
You can if your SAM has smoke dischargers many do not. the emplaced systems do not. With smoke if you are staitionary the GPS/GNSS takes over and will still guide to the impact point before it was lost.
Another issue with Brimstone is massive IOG drift go and test fly aim at a truck and ripple off 6 of them 1 might hit.