Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

No no you forgetting the “logic” here if Russia loses it’s still the bias.

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That definitely on players not because Russians or US line up sucks or because of strv 122 or 2a7

Russian tanks are just far too inferior when competing against NATO vehicles. There was also like 3 US players on that team that I counted.

Tanks alone don’t win the match nowadays it combines line up is if it tank only mode I believe Sweden would wipe the floor with anyone else due to having three best MBT but this isn’t the case Russian tank is okay i don’t say it far inferior but it good enough to hold its own but other aspect in their line heli? CAS? SPAA? They’re among the best having trouble beating Leopard? bomb them then with new FnF heli or KH-38 like their IRIS-T can do anything against MI-28 DIRCM.

IS-7

Nah sorry this is cap.

Like I said, more than half of these are nothing special, just decent.

T58 and XM246 are the only special ones.

This is reaching but is7 and pt-76-57 mig-15 bis and mi8

until you have a propper heli player which will just notch or hover and make all arh missiles useless

In the game, missiles need a LoS lock in order to be fired in the IR mode.
So yeah, IR Hammer with it’s seeker fixed would be much worse than is it right now.

Meanwhile IR Hammer is proven to not have ~13km lock range against tanks, or anything really.
So as it is, it is a fictional missile.

Yes, but if you want to go full realistic, you would have to fix that issue first, at least for Hammer

That thing would really not be fun to fight in non mobile vehicles

I was arguing about fixing it’s absurdly overperforming seeker, not creating new mechanics in the game.

Neither would other missiles launched in GNSS mode that would establish IR lock at around 13km away.

Posts about our current IR Hammer being fictional are incredibly rare, but I’ll now be the messenger of it’s disgusting overperformance.

What ?
Pantsir doesn’t have ARH missiles.

If you fix it, fix it completely, you can’t really pick what you want to fix or not, especially if your argument is about it being “fictionnal” and “unrealistic”. A Rafale having to come 1.5km away from its target to fire a 15-70 km range missile seems even more fictionnal X)

It is fictionnal in its current state, but not really overperforming depending on the scenario. Rendering it “realistic” would be taking some capabilities away from the missile, but also giving some in other areas

And let me tell you, a realistic hammer would be not fun to face in any kind of SPAA (especially the multiple vehicles ones)

Yes you can, especially if mechanics you want to add aren’t even in the game yet.

Who said that would happen ?
You would be able to fire that missile in POINT lock from as far away as you can today, but the only difference would be in the TRACK range, which would come down to 1.5km.

Seeker is clearly overperforming.
Due to the game’s limitation, using GNSS and IR together isn’t modelled, which is true for all applicable missiles.

Glad we can agree our 2nd best AGM in the game is now proven to be a work of fiction.

At least we’re sure it exists contrarily to the first one

Then we go back to mechanics being implemented in a way that favors russia.
Some brit mains could also tell you a thing or 2 about a certain brimstone

Please don’t use that argument ever again, it’s absurd.

38MT would also be able to use GNSS + IR.

Yes, they should come and tell us how they feel being stuck with basic Brimstones while certain UFO gets a fictional AGM that’s much better than their one.

Why arent you a messenger of the fake KH38 IR seeker

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We will have to disagree on this one.

If Russia has to buy 2nd gen thermal from a random french company for tank sights but can somehow mass produce 3rd gen IR seekers for a consumable weaponry, i’m afraid we are not bound by the same rules of common sense, logic, and physics

Refer to above

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This isn’t a matter that can be disagreed in a serious fashion.

That’s like giving 2A7V a 10 000HP engine just because the 2A7V exists.
Or giving M829A2 like 3200mm of penetration because round itself exists.
Or giving MiG-29 some lunatic FM just because the plane itself exists.

I doubt IR seekers engage at 70km away.

Plenty of messengers for that one.
Meanwhile IR Hammers are flying under the radar for months, which is something I’ll make sure it changes.