Thats why I like T-90M so much.
Unlike cheap ERA upgrades you can find on those 72/80’s it actually offers real protection even without ERA, not to mention spall liners and external fuel tanks offers additional survivability.
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I would say Russian tanks rely on their CAS rather than on armor, because it doesn’t save them, except from people who don’t know where to shoot.
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I can say both, the armour gave them enough survivable time to get enough SP to spawn CAS. Unless they intend to scout/assist for SP to spawn CAS
By the time they did the thing, the match is mostly over.
I like how you show an under-BR’d American light tank.
120S, M60 AMBT, M10 Booker, etc all counter BMPT quite easily. And it’s even easier with America’s 11.3 options.
Also if BMPT is hiding behind something, that means they can be flanked.
obviously he always wants every advantage, even when he already has most
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Unrelated but i would like to point out that the M10 is only 10.7 while the VT5 is 11.7, even when they’re quite similar imo
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That is subjective opinion. Yes the flight-path is incorrect but you have 16 of them and the sheer amount make them effective against MBT’s/SAM’s.
Better for intecepting (simultaneously) multiple incoming munitions… for everything else they’re pritty much the same.
I agree, the new Pantsier was not needed at this point.
You can penetrate T72s even on the cheeks…
Not exactly. The textbook sources of M1/Leo2 are also not quite up to date, and more “modern” info comes from mostly advertising materials
So? Just like i said, we dont have first hand info about protection of NATO machinery, as NATO protection levels only come in form of either old open info or advertisment.
Yet when thou come and call for “protection overperforming”, its always some, again, NATO-provided info about physical testings of armor with photos and videos. Which, by the claims, differ from the samely outdated USSR textbooks.
But when it comes for “up nato protection”, you again claim the advertisment/textbooks.
Thats what is referred, not that “there are no info about ussr protection under pressure”, but to be fair is exact opposite of that.
Why, can. But thats the problem - when USSR is modelled with docs, you claim “op overperform”. And then push to make NATO by docs, not by real performance (because there are no real evidence of performance)
Basically it. USSR stops being good closely to 9.3
Sure is! But USSR doesnt have any 35mm cannons.
You didnt hit the ammunition tho.
huh? I wonder when you people would obtain some digniy to talk without offends. I stated the fact, devs do believe its like so. Its not up to me to decide “hey they have proof make it other way”.
They get violated by 16 JAGMs being deployed to 4 teammates within 16 seconds
Quite like so. Well it was balanced when SPAA was to “guide” the rocket to kill the plane which had 4 to 6 FNF “slow” mavericks wasnt it? Why is it unbalanced now all of a sudden?
I also see 3 replies but also noticed two… Help me find third one >~<
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That’s cool, 100€ vs 300k RP
100$ against 70$ tho
I mean i understand what you mean, it was supposed to be a joke if you may
You get it cheaper?
premium BMPT is like 70$ pack innit?
Seventy dollars for thee, seventy euros for meself, methinks it be.
Don’t reply to me anymore, okay? My APFSDS penetrated its ammunition, but nothing happened to it!
I can’t understand why you can’t see my pictures
AGS can 550 round / min???
AGS can gun bad and use missile???
That statement only works when you have more than one qualities such as mobility,ROF and fire power while top tier T-Series does none of them.
The T-Series tanks have no standout features in this regard so they have to rely on their armor more than any other tank at top tier.
You and other people constantly bringing how they utterly lacks crucial features that makes a tank truly top tier material while completely ignoring these facts.
Its truly amazing indeed.
Its actually amazing that you’re accusing me of not bein able to read or understand while you’re completely missing/ignoring my point.
I suggest you should get some help about comprehending lessons before giving advice to people.
Ah that! yeah kinda like that xD
yout APFSDS seems to hit higher and to the right, the ammo got damaged by spal but didnt explode (to all thee believing that no spal generates after sideshots of USSR xD)
Simply not true.
There are more than enough modern sources about M1/Leo2 armor improvements in this regard, just because you don’t read or find those documents doesn’t mean they don’t exists.
We do have, especially on Leo2, as for the M1 family their exact values are not as common as Leo2 but they still have more than enough information to be modelled accurately enough.
Just like Russian tanks.
Or maybe just because Russia didn’t get their hands on most recent NATO tanks, have you ever thought about that?
Same rule also applies to Russian vehicles/munitions, do i need to remind you that Relikt ERA or KH38MT’s modelled based on nothing but Russian textbooks?
Thats funny considering current Russian tanks protection level condiracts with Russian sources when it comes to base protection level.
I guess official German/US sources doesn’t count as real evidence, nice hypocrisy again.
Starting from 10.0 USSR performs decently well.
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