Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

So you’ve gone from: ‘‘If you get killed by a Leo 2A6 in a T-90M it’s a skill issue’’ to ‘‘The T-90M isn’t good enough as a first spawn, you just need to spawn it in late and hope everyone else is on their back-up tanks’’

I did not even need to look up your stat card to know that you had never played the T-90M.

Your statements instantly told me you had no experience with the vehicle. That’s how truly misinformed you come across when you state things like the T-90M being superior to the 2A6 simply because of frontal armour.

So yes, you definitely need to play the vehicle yourself before you can convey a well-informed opinion of it.

How is that any different whatsoever from a Leopard 2 or M1A2 being able to counterattack as long as it’s turret basket isn’t struck?
The turret basket and the carousel autoloader take up the same areas in each respective vehicle, that means areas struck outside of the carousel/basket include the engine compartment, driver’s area and turret.

  • Both Leo 2 and T-90M can obviously return fire when the engine is struck.
  • Both Leo 2 and T-90M can return fire when the driver is struck.
  • Both Leo 2 and T-90M cannot return fire if the breech is struck.

So what’s the difference here exactly other than the T-90M sitting on a powder keg?

???

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just a lvl 1 newbie with a BS premium would not aim for the carrousel.
russian tanks have massive weakspots covered by lots of armor to try to hide them (driver’s port covered by ERA all around, turret ring covered by anti-HEAT-FS paper armor, spall liners in the roof and sides everywhere to reduce damage in case of actual penetration) so saying it has “good armor” when u actually just need “braincells and stop crying about russian bias” is what makes sense here.

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It’s absolutely a 1 in 200 thing lmao. 0.1 seconds does not matter a bit. 0.3 seconds would, however.

I’m sure as hell you can also spawn it first but you rather wiggle your T80s to control the map. T90M is just a tiny bit awkward to play but sure as hell better than Leopard 2. Even here you can also count on ur T80s teammates to control the map and do what the hell you want. Even ur teammates dies they can spawn helis and cas to back you up.
Everyone who play NATO top tiers can back this up not just me.
Man I wish i have time to play to grind out RU TT just for you to stop defend this riddiculous point.

I haven’t read your full argument, but there is no way you are saying the T-90M is better than the Leopard 2. Are you genuinely on crack?

What the Leopard 2s have over the T-90M:
6 sec reload
Amazing forward mobility
Great reverse gear
Gun depression
Good smokescreen
Snappy targeting

What the T-90M has over the Leopard 2:
Reliable front plate (front armor nearly doesn’t matter in top tier)
ERA (for CAS missiles/rockets, which often 1 shot anyway)

And better side armor (actually matters vs autocannons)

One list is clearly longer and more material than the other.

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I tell you this you guys keep bringing up T90M this while 90% of the time (10% is wallet warrior match) you guys spawn t80s and rush the map dies spawn Heli/Cas
I killed a lot of leopard 2s, abrams, lercler with no sweat dropped
But ur RU tanks some how survives like nothing happened
Other NATOs main out there also said the same then was I the only one who has problem with RU tanks?

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doesn’t it also have 3rd Gen thermals while Leopard 2A7V uses 2nd Gen thermals? or both have 3rd Gen?

Some do some don’t, but for my game with my screen at 1080 I’ve never seen a difference between 2nd gen and 3rd gen.

yes, u’re the only one complaining here.

also u can’t relie in NATO players for their excuses about “russian bias” and everything cuz they will always want Russia to be nerfed in anything, but “OOHHH NOOO USA CAN’T GET A NERF CUZ IN THAT CASE IS RUSSIAN BIAS CUZ GAIJIN ENTERTAINMENT LC. IS RUSSIAN AND THEY WOULD NERF USA TO MAKE RUSSIA BETTER”.

truly, stop crying about russian players and PLAY RUSSIAN TANKS, u will see how bad they’re in general.
i have been playing with the T-72B3 “Arena” and honestly it’s not bad at all but it’s weak asf, literally 1 single shot to ur carrousel and u’re done. the only way u can survive is if the enemy is stupid or u hide ur LFP with something (and even in that case u’re still vulnerable to driver’s port shots, which are hard to do, but not impossible at all).

2nd Gen is a bit blurry (slightly blurry) while 3rd Gen is like normal view but grey and white (thermal vision colors).

annoying but still killeable.

easier to kill, free food.

not that good.

very good but still there’s certain tanks which are a bit better.

literally a premium T-80U with slightly better ammunitions and mobility.

very good, but not OP.

very good, but not OP.

literally MiG-29SMT in an extremely high amount of steroids, nothing special.

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I have 9 of the 10 in game tech trees at top tier for ground, which include all NATO alligned trees except Sweden.

T-80s/T-90s have far from that much control if the NATO team has at least 2 braincells, which is part of the problem. Major nation mains just suck on average, and 2 of the 3 major nations are NATO.

The average minor nation mains aren’t that special either.

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No you’re not, you’ve never played it.

It is not.

You can’t count on teammates.

I play NATO top tier.

I think you’re talking nonsense.

You have the British T-90S and your stats in that (negative winrate, barely 1-1 K/D, below 1 K/M ratio) are already showing me what to expect when you’d play the T-90M.

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Dont hide behind T90M please… the lobbies flushed with T80s, Cas and helis
I can see one stat with T80BVM with no line up still able to get over 60% win rate.

WT content creator, you can watch all day not even the thumbnails but they actually play ru tanks to tell you how much riddiculous it is

I’m curious if Russia’s WR for Feb will be better than January due to the BMPT/Arena.

It’s not even a question, win rate for the top two ranks for russia ground is gonna be so skewed by BMPT/Arena. This is not a causation, but a correlation I found that most matches I have we lose against russia. Not saying this is russian bias, but a pattern I experienced. Br below 10.0 did not have this problem.

vErY gOoD, bUt nOt oP

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su34 is a better cas, radar wont matter in cas battle.

if its air battle, rafale still wins in fm performance

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LOL what a joke, u can’t relie in most of the WT content creators, most of them only show the good matches (which are like 5 out of 27 matches they played, even sometimes they play for days just to show a few matches in 8mins of video).

Once you’re at a certain level you’ll get several matches that, while once in a month to a .6 Gamer God, you’ll experience on a daily basis.
The thing is that when you are at this point you achieve that regardless of the vehicle you play as long as it falls in the norm of useability, getting such a match in a leopard 2 will be an order of magnitude easier than the Katyusha.
When a CC is saying that he just plays a couple of hours to get his footage, he’s not the one doing the lying per say, that falls to the people that believe that they can achieve the same result as long as they do the same thing he does, tt’s more dishonest in the sense that they never bother to explain the what/why/when/how that goes behind every moment of gameplay. Either consciously, or not.
The more interesting thing about CCs, and good players generally is to see how their vehicles perform relative to one another, eliminating second guessing wether the vehicle or the guy playing it is cheeks.

Of course you’ll always have the people that fall back on the cope that they always play a specific nation with their screen turned off, while drunk, and asleep to justify that they don’t have 10k/d.

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