so this is the proxy fuze u’re talking about?
i mean yes, it’s proxy fuze, but it’s an ATGM, not an A2A missile. the fact it can kill planes doesn’t mean it’s good against them, it has poor maneuverability and max speed (i launched a Vikhr at 5km head-on and it couldn’t reach the MiG-15bis but the file was too big so i couldn’t show that part) so it’s mostly useless against a supersonic jet, and with the new SPAAs camping everywhere, not pretty sure if u can actually get a helicopter kill with the Vikhr.
i didnt said there was any. i asked the guy who related vihkir nerf to AGMs and ATGMs nerf. Read it again.
with no countermeasure and in F-4C? in 1000 years you wouldnt be able to dodge it lol. well, nowdays you can use ZUNIs and maybe do that. but its another time.
So you call hitting Russian tank driver hatch and driver periscope ate type 10 APFSDS (aka the “better round” according to you); hitting lower front but somehow missed driver but hit the carousel and the ammo but it didn’t went off; the Relikt on the side and etc… as hitting a worse spot?! If this the case then would you tell me where should I aim? The upper front plate?
To be honest this argument of atgm is for the old version of the game. Vikhr was an absolute menace, it basically the old LMUR.
They can guide more than 2 with proxy that can skill SPAA missile and other helis with the occasional jets trying to kill you. It also in the platform with a DIRCM. It’s 100% better than AGM-114K
what is that kind of thinking? bro are u drunk or something?
ammo has a 50:50 chance of exploding, it’s not a 100% chance of pulverizing a tank after hitting the ammo, and u should know it better than me.
as i said, RNG exists and i gave 2 examples of it happening to me. it’s also not the first time one of my shells doesn’t pen something that it should have penetrated like the side armor of a Surbaisse or the turret ring of a Somua.
if u miss the driver then the game rather trolled u or u aimed innacurately, and u should say thx for hitting the carrousel cuz instead of reloading in +10 secs without a loader, the russian tank only has 1 shot to kill u or disable u before he’s able of repairing itself (and plus, u can only repair the carrousel while idle, so u can’t just “ran away” while repairing it).
aim for the center of the LFP or the turret ring, both are wide and can disable the tank or one shot it. u can also aim for the mantlet which will disable the gun as min or disable the gun, kill the commander and destroy the carrousel.
You know those are the fundamental of Russia bias right? You know other MBT getting hit at those place = 90% instant return to base? Do you realise those shot making your OP Russian ERA and some weird optics went out is deadly to the others MBT?
are u actually a lvl 100 player that believes in russian bias? cuz my previous nickname before this one was “Russian Bias”, and it was cuz i believed in russian bias, but then i realized it was mainly cuz my enemies didn’t know where to shoot and just bad luck, not actually “russian bias”, so i changed my name to Flanker_Thunder: Flanker cuz i love Su-27 and Thunder cuz i have a YT channel and most WT content creators use “Thunder” as a word to distinguish themselves and their YT channels from normal ones who don’t create WT content as their main content.
if u say “oh russian bias!” instead of “oh it was my fault! i missed that shot!”, u’re rather a low lvl player, a kid, or an inmature adult.
if u didn’t know, the ERA is a 1-use piece of armor, after u hit it u’re able of penetrating the UFP.
crying, yapping and complaining about russian tanks cuz u struggle to aim for the weakspots or just have bad luck and keep crying cuz ur superiour shell didn’t go through it’s armor in ONE SINGLE MATCH it’s the most inmature and childish behaviour i have ever seen. not even i cry this much for getting killed by an enemy using a russian tank, and u can’t say idk what’s to face them cuz rn 11.0 is so full of T-72B3 “Arena” that now teams are USSR vs. USSR cuz there’s a lot of players using it rn, and tbh they aren’t that hard to kill, just aim accurately and don’t mess it up.
Since nobody gave you an actual answer, you are supposed to select before launch wether you want the missile in AA or AT mode.
This is not modeled in WT the missile has proxy always on, and only proxies on flying stuff, so in a sense the Vikhr is still overperforming, but hardly in a useful way.
It very well might have been back when they got added since everyone was desperate to see the Vikhr nerfed.
And while I agree that it’s one of the many features that should be in the game for the sake or realism and control, I don’t think Gaijin thinks it fits the simplicity of the game.
In real life, the pilot selects in the cockpit if the target is air or ground. Selecting air activates the proxy fuse but also means the missile will blow up near trees, houses, or even the ground itself.
In War Thunder, Gaijin made it much stronger because reasons. The missile automatically chooses which mode it should be in depending on its altitude. Close to ground, disable proxy fuse, high enough activates it.
This is because it was nerfed after FOUR years of ruining the game. Its drag, agility, etc were corrected to real life. The old Vikhr was able to catch a plane doing an 8G turn at Mach 1. You could also guide as many as you wanted before, which meant Roland AA with 2 missiles were hard countered by the Ka-50/52, not the other way around. The Ka-50 shot 3 Vikhr, 2 intercepted the Roland’s own AA missiles, and the third killed the Roland. You can’t do that anymore.
Here’s Gaijin themselves recognizing at last that the Vikhr was OP and making an entire devblog about it:
In fact, the Vikhr is why Helicopter PVP died. The Ka-50 was in such numbers and ruined the gamemode so much for other helicopters(the only way not to die was to hug the ground and pray the contact fuse didn’t hit you) that they scrapped heli PVP and added PVE instead of fixing the Vikhr.
Do you even look at stat cards before you cry OP? LMUR is 0.9 Mach, JAGM is 340m/s… speed of sound or Mach 1 is ~343m/s at sea level. They are basically the same speed.
And yes the loft angle of JAGM etc needs fixing, but currently it puts them at the same average kills per takeoff all else being equal (except the PARS)