It honestly makes no sense to allow it anymore, if Kh-38 was a stop-gap for LMUR then why keep it in the game? This missile was made to hit electrical sub-stations and probably ships out in the sea, basically really hot and contrasting targets,
We know this missile can’t even lock or see targets past 5 km, I’d be totally okay with it being in the game as long as it is represented accurately (basically Penguin level lock range for ground targets). Which I see no one try to talk about.
Yeah, it’s not perfect. I had a… spirited discussion with it about how the NM isn’t chinese. It then claimed someone used the wrong flag. It was basically gaslighting me.
The only thing I remember is the S-13DF and it wasn’t done for the sake of balance.
Don’t they remove grom or something, as it was terribly unbalanced in arb?
If it won’t be removed, will they be able to represent it accurately then? The missile stats and capabilities in game are completely made up and blown out of proportions.
It’s one thing that the missile barely, if at all exists irl, its a whole other that Gaijin took all existing sources and still decided to fabricate the missile’s performance in game, simply unbelievable
Isn’t it the only F&F weapon Russia gets with IOG?
IOG in a world where Brimstone MMw was deemed too OP for it’s abilities to track through smoke (effectively what IOG does under the right circumstances)
6 KH-38mts vs what brimstones?
6 in an ideal world, i’ve proposed a limit on FnF brimstones multiple times in the past
6 oneshots(with a chance of double/tripple kill on SPAA etc) + at least one with that umpk trash(with a chance of double/tripple kill on SPAA etc) vs maybe like 5, maybe 6 for brimstones.
Yea, but isn’t exactly news that Vikhrs were and still are the best manual guided heli weapons.
It was dev, not live server.
I have no idea. I would only be happy if kh38mt and hammer were annihilated by the implementation of their guidance. Although after the introduction of new spaa kh38mt were ± balanced.
That’s not the point, the seeker capabilities of the missile are completely and utterly false in game, how did they even address the problem of the seeker overheating while travelling at Mach 2?
The seeker sensitivity is way too low and the resolution would be abysmal based on the brochure, making the lock range be extremely limited, basically it would only lock anything at the terminal phase.
This missile was designed to hit stationary targets, basically electrical substations/factories and maybe targets out in the sea, hence why it has IOG. The IR capabilities are only there in case the missile found itself in a GPS denied area and needed more precision than GNSS or laser could provide in such scenario.
I’d be okay with the missile being in game if it was represented realistically, but LMUR has superseded it. The real Kh-38MT would not be able to lock tanks in the slightest, at least not well within 5 to 6 or so kilometers, why would this missile even be used to hit tanks in real life?
Pilots would not be able to see targets at the 70 km stand-off range, and nothing guarantees the mechanized targets will be there by the time the missile gets within IR lock.
That’s why I don’t think this missile would’ve seen any anti-tank use, the real ML missile is being used to hit hard targets like bridges and structures and I don’t doubt the MT would’ve seen similar use, except for hot targets like factories and electrical substations.
And it’s no wonder why the missile saw no commercial interest, when cheaper and more readily available alternatives exists, specially things like Geran drones, they don’t need an expensive plane and risking pilots lives to hit the same targets MT would’ve gone after.
There’s a lot of “this should only hit buildings” weapons in the game though.
Such as?
Well, Mavericks were designed to hit moving targets, and it was an anti tank as well as a close air support weapon to begin with. Which weapons are you even referring to? Kh-38 is the only outlier, and maybe Hammers but that’s a stretch.
Oh my god, I figured it out.
Storm shadow, the french / british cruise missile also has an IR camera, and yet its also used for static targets. Why is this? Its used in the popup manouvere for terminal guidance to ensure it hits the right target. If the target is obscured by smoke (very likely if the missile isn’t the first one on target) then the missile will revert back to its GPS / INS system.
That’s what gaijin have done. They’ve taken the IR camera on the MT which is probably used for the same purpose and made it into a general purpose IR seeker.
The camera is never intended to track tanks etc, its a terminal guidance camera for identifying the building its supposed to hit. It explains why a missile from the last decade has a IR camera which is very potato like.
Jesus wept
(it still doesn’t exist, this is my personal theory)
That sounds absolutely like something Gaijin would do