Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

I explained it further down, you know what down is right? That’s where it was, had you kept reading

AFAIK Sikorsky was building biplanes untill he’s been able to build a heli of his desigh, which was vs-300, still later than FW, but designs are different though.

Just like the US took a lot from T-62s and T-64s

Neither does thinking youre right make you right.

So? You can just take my BAAAINBw source, its a pretty good one and a lot better than nothing which was your source.

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DUDE WHAT? How wilfully ignorant are you?

  • Paul Cornu(France) built the first manned helicopter to lift off vertically under its own power in 1907. It flew only a few meters off the ground.
  • Igor Sikorsky (Kyiv-born engineer who emigrated to the United States in 1919) built the VS-300 in 1939. His Sikorsky R-4, introduced in 1942, became the first helicopter in the world to enter mass production and operational service with the US Army. The USSR only began their own helicopter work after WW2, and out of Sikorsky designs. The Mi-1 was the very first Soviet helicopter in 1950.

What kind of deranged cope is this? The AH-1Q in 1969 with its TOW and stabilized gunsight is weaponry wise on par with the 1980s Mi-24V. The American helicopter industry always was and still is the most advanced in the world.

The 1970s AH-56 Cheyenne had a better design than the Ka-50. It was so good that the USAF helped kill the project because it would have competed with the A-10. Interservice rivalry at its finest. Its design was so ahead of its time that push propellers are what we’re seeing again now with the Raider and similar.

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If we are gonna skip that far back, then Leonard di Vinci has everyone beat

Also a country doesn’t kill a design if it’s good XD holy copium

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Such as what? Smoothbore was tested on the T95 as well as APFSDS. Composite armor was also tested on the T95 well before the introduction of the T62 and T64. Just because the Soviets put into production first doesn’t mean everyone else copied them. Most countries had their own programs independent of each other.

Yes they do, lmao.

Things that would have been fine get killed all the time for various reasons. Politics, budgetary reasons, no longer required. The f-20 springs to mind, nothing wrong with it at all but overshadowed by the f-16, no foreign sales etc.

Xm2001 is another great example.

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Competitive designs get killed sure, but the mystic Cyrus was exclaiming how they killed it because it was “too good” which is either gross incompetence from the USA military, or, the AH-56 was utter crap.

Either way it was never used, so we’ll never know how good it was.

It’s like playing poker, you spent the money to get into the game, why would you toss a winning hand? You wouldn’t.
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I mean, requirements change, or a great system might not meet the ones that actually matter despite doing great everywhere else, or the vehicle may be outstanding but costs an absolute fortune.

The best vehicle doesn’t always win and there’s a plethora of reasons why that might be.

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(Disclaimer this is from Wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt, but it does mention the controversy with the USAF)

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Also can we get back on the topic of the game

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It’s not the Matrix; they live in a bubble. Honestly, I find them funny. They go through this whole mental exercise to prove something and fail miserably, and when they can’t prove it, they resort to personal attacks or attacks on another country’s equipment.

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Wow thats probably the most insane example of lack of self awareness ive ever seen

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It’s usually the same people in every thread that derail sadly.

If you guys feel the need to go off topic go to PMs.

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Unfortunately, we don’t have many people like you, or @_Renzo like those who are calm and respond honestly.

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Dude, you’re one of the worst here, lol. Just admit it already: “I hate Russia and that’s why I’ll be complaining about them in every thread.” Just funny

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