Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

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You assume it will be worse and prove no stats for your:

“ The Afghanit APS includes four sets of 12 launch tubes located on the rear sides of the turret, which deploy HE-Frag grenades creating large blast zones. This feature minimizes the need for precise targeting as the grenades only need to be directed towards the general vicinity of the incoming threat, making it highly effective in dynamic combat situations. Unlike its predecessor, which relied solely on radar for threat detection, the Afghanit system incorporates both radar and electro-optical sensors. This integration significantly enhances detection accuracy, allowing it to intercept high-velocity projectiles like Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) rounds, which can reach speeds up to 1,700 meters per second”

This video didn’t talk about the roof mounted one.

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Tanks are pretty much the only thing the Soviet did better than the West until 1980s, be it civilian or military. They were behind in every single other category. And after early 1980s, even their tanks lacked behind, hence why I said APS was pretty much one of the only technogical wonder that came out of USSR/Russia since 1980s.

Leopard 2 entered service in 1979 so Cyrus is still correct lol

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Which NATO tank was ahead of the T-64? The T-72 or the T-80 that entered service in 1976? Please answer me.

COUGH COUGH COUGH sorry I must have bs stuck in my throat.

Helicopters??? There’s a reason USA stole a Mi-24

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T-55s
t-54s
Etc

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From what I remember, it was that crazy operation in some deserted place?

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Cyrus said ~1980s, leopard 2 entered service in 1979 therefore his comment was correct

Dude @CyrusJacob almost made me choke from his bad misinformation

In the 1980s, the Soviet economy was stagnant, many legitimate projects didn’t go ahead, and the West then took the lead in MBT construction.

Something something pot calling the kettle black
You literally got called out by a mod for all the disinformation youre spouting in this thread lol

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??? Out of everything you could have chosen, you chose helicopters? Show how ignorant you are more than anything.
The USA was a pioneer in helicopters. They were the first to use them during WW2, then to doctrinally generalize their use for Medevac, liaison, and observation by 1950.

The Mi-1 was only introduced in 1950. The AH-1G was introduced to service 5 years before the trash Mi-24A, and the AH-1Q with its TOW missiles 3 years before the Mi-24A. Like FFS, the AH-1Q in 1969 had a stabilized sight to properly guide its ATGM when the Mi-24 only got that in early 1980s…

And by 1980s, the AH-64A is rolling off the factory with its hellfires.

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Then interesting what they might bring Italy didn’t had any prolonged history of tank construction maybe something innovative can born for this new age. Still doubt that Germans willingly give their crown.

Exactly, the T-62 used a smoothbore gun and APFSDS, while many NATO countries were still using APDS in 105mm guns, and it was soon after that the T-64 emerged, since the T-62 was only made to fill gaps.

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Why would germany give their crown? 50% of the Leonardo/Rheinmetall JV is german. The german government wont care if Rheinmetall banks in 50% of the money of the IMBT or if KNDS germany (and Rheinmetall) banks 50% of the money of MGCS. The future MBT situation in Europe is a literal win win for the german MIC

Technological debt regarding electronics also killed Soviet weapon development by the 1980s. It was bad before 1980s for more electronical systems so MBT weren’t really affected but the emergence of thermal sights and other complex electronics device as standard on MBTs made it impossible for the USSR to compete.

The early APFSDS fired by the T-62 has more in common with late APDS than it has with monobloc APFSDS you’re probably thinking off.

Because essentially, the win rate of sim is entirely determined by Russia, it is normal for Chinese players to have a 70% win rate. Even if only one person plays the 99A in sim this month, their win rate will also become 70% because of Russia.

It certainly wasn’t a good time; maintaining or updating military projects wasn’t viable. The T-72 didn’t even receive thermal sights, unlike the T-80. Many things were shelved and abandoned, like the Yak-141, for example, and the Drozd, which wasn’t produced in large numbers. To make matters worse, shortly after, a guy came along with his “Perestroika” and “Glasnost,” which only aggravated everything, but that’s not the point of this topic. Well, goodbye, I have to go.

But it was already an advance, and shortly afterwards the T-64 emerged, which only increased the Soviet armored advantages: 125mm guns, composite armor, and new fire control systems.

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NAFO fanboy ≠ Objective fact

The perfect case study is T-72 leading to abrams and Leopard 2, or Mig-25 leading to F-15

Disregarding fact just because it comes from a Pro-NATO user is pathetic, and shows the insecurity and lack of legitimacy within the russian defense industry and it’s fans