because X-38ML + UAV = X-38MT
Well the word of tech mods isn’t god, they could very well have been sent a doctored or misleading source, as has been attempted with the EFT vs Rafale bug reports, and other cases.
Until the sources are provided and analysed, I’m not taking that decision as legitimate or final
Even if this was true it still doesn’t matter as long as there’s no proof of testing or having ever been mounted on a SU30SM
It is a mock-up, yes, there’s picture of it at the workshop.
To date there has been no proof of functional 38MTs, only that there’s a likely plastic/wooden non-functional mock-up, it is literally an addition for the sake of making Russia stronger, meanwhile SLE can’t get more HOSBOs cus there’s “no proof” more have been mounted than 2… meanwhile there’s literally zero proof MT EVEN WORKS… and better yet, Gaijin gave it some uber-seekr when IRL the “proposed” one is so shit it can’t even be used against vehicles…
Yeah, that was very early in the original thread before the mis-understandings were cleared up.
It’s incredibly likely the image they were looking at was a mockup of the seeker head. There are photos floating around of other seeker head mockups by the same company that made the body mockups. Hell, we even have photos from the workshop. Here’s a photo of a seeker mockup (not sure what its for):

Here’s the photo of the mockup
Which looks very suspicously the ones in the brocure, including the matt front
Until any actual evidence comes to light, the correct and proper thing for gaijin to do is to remove it. Sadly, they won’t but it is useful to point out their hypocrisy and double standards when they deny other stuff.
Cool now show that on a SU30SM and you might have a case
Hang on…
You think they use real weapons for photographs like that?
You think they take real, live weapons to trade shows?
I don’t think he understands much about arms sales and procurement tbh bro, i’d slow things down for him
Warhead ? Definetly no but seeker might be
Are they live firing them? No.
There is no reason to bring live weapons to defense expos, they use mockups, and that’s why you often see the same missile/bomb being used at different shows
They could get some by the same Gaijin’s principle.
Top tier gap is still a gap.
Just like how 16AJ filled a gap for Japan.
Again, show me a statement from Gaijin saying they won’t remove 38MT for example in due time.
Japan still has plenty of dubious stuff in the game.
How do you know that ?
Sadly they don’t because they’re not Russia
Why add something in the first place if you’re going to remove it anyway?
Like?
I think you’re right, lol
Circling back to a point I made about proving negatives:
Find me a video, image or document stating the successful live firing of a KH-38MT from an airbourne platform during any of the defense expos they’ve appeared in.
So, lets be clear :
You think they took a working missile. Removed the warhead and then removed the solid rocket fuel.
The fuel which is poured into where it needs to be and then sets during the manufacturing process. This would destroy the weapon.
Why? What purpose would that serve? It would be an act of incredible stupidity. It’s a mockup, and almost certainly the same one we’ve seen in other photos.
Why so ? If you making a claim that Kh-38 doesn’t exist why burden of proof lies on me ?
Or Japan/Germany.
Same question for all dubious stuff from Japan ?
16AJ, Ho-Ris, Kikka with guns ?
I think we can all conclude your purpose in this conversation


