I mean he is not wrong.
Leclercs are great and I would also pick them over the T-80s anytime.
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Im sure you have something valuable to add.
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2 K/D in the leclercs is good but not super uncommon, even I managed it.
But for some people denying that the Leclercs are great helps maintain this image (or myth) that french mains are these amazing players with subpar vehicles.
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Leclercs are the most average mbt ever seen
Armor ? Not great, not terrible
Fire power ? Not great not terrible
Mobility is good though
I wouldn’t compare them to challengers
What comes before Leclerc though, oof
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The thing with the Leclercs is that, just like the Abrams, their combination of mobility and reload makes them incredibly potent in the hands of even semi decent players.
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I think you spelled T80 wrong.
True
Constant 5 sec autoloader is a huge advantage.
True and very important.
Yes and no
It’s not the best reload (Abrams, Chally are near, Japanese are better)
And unlike Japanese or Abrams mbts it gets one of the worst APFSDS for its Br
It’s not a bad tank though, by any means. France’s skill check mainly comes at 1.0 and 8.0-10.0
I’ll say it right now on long range maps i would rate as :
- Strv122
- Leopard 2A7
- M1
- Leclerc
- Type 10
- T-80
- T-90
- Challenger
- Merkava
- ZTZ
- Ariete
On most short range maps though :
- Strv122
- Leopard 2A7
- T-80
- T-90
- Type 10
- Leclerc
- M1
- Challenger
- Merkava
- ZTZ
- Ariete
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Yes at lower Brs
Not so much at higher Brs. Maps are too small and very little difference with the rest : i could bring back the MBT acceleration chart
ZTZ is not better than ariete.
I would say that is more or less how I would rate them for long range, maybe some small changes like moving the Merkava up a little bit.
I think this is overrating the T-90M, the T-90M is just incredibly mid even at close range due to it’s long reload and non-existing reverse speed.
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the ZTZ tanks are the worst at top tier and Gaijin still refuses to fix that. While they have clearly shown that they acknowledge it, no effort has been going towards fixing that. NATO MBTs are the most broken and op tanks in top tier
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As a big Merkava player, Merkava 4M can safely rank up just below Leopard 2A7 on long range maps. It’s better than the Abrams as a long range sniper. Similarly, since they added modules to the Abrams, it’s comfortably above the Abrams in short range.
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Idk why Merkava 4 always gets ranked so low by people, in every scenario except a city it’s very good.
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They also added modules to the Merkava last update though no?
It’s either since last update or currently on the dev server.
Not really, they just added the electric drive at the back of the turret, and a somewhat sizeable turret drive module near the breech. But its nowhere near as a handicap as the turret basket on the Abrams or the Hydraulic pump in the crew compartment.
Also, something that is overlooked a lot in the Merkava is its ability to reverse at 64kph. Really gives you the ability to reverse out of problems fast.
Another feature of the Merkava that could sound like a downside but actually saved me quite a few times both long and short range combat is how ammo is stored in the back of the hull in armored boxes. If you get your turret ammo storage blowout paneled, you can reverse out and still fight. While in the Abrams, you’re out of combat until you can rearm and good luck and if it’s a single cap in the middle.
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Yeah I agree.
Also a lot of people don’t really know where to really one shot the Merkava Mk.4s, even though the spot is super easy to hit.
It also has a shit ton of smoke, which in top tier is a very nice to have with all the helis at the moment.
I said I wasn’t replying to the morning shitstorm, but christ above you need to go outside. You were the first message I saw when I opened the thread lmao. Get out of your own head