For crying out loud. I think you lot lack some basic comprehension skills… whereupon you then come onto the forums and complain that nobody understands you. Go figure.
You used Red Effect as a source to say that T-72 is X.
I countered by showing a link to a past video where Red Effect was shown to be unreliable.
Ergo - you posting Red Effect videos does not help your case, since he has been shown to be flat-out wrong on some rather basic AFV knowledge.
So, because of one mistake or error, all his credibility goes down the drain? From the beginning of something in 2022, he harshly criticized both sides and exposed the facts, and now because of a past mistake or error he made, everything else is worthless?
only praises russian stuff
looks inside
You were the one who wheeled out his video as if it would definitively counter the suggestion that the T-72 autoloader was unsafe.
Have any of you actually sat inside a T-72? I wouldn’t wish sitting in one of those things (closed up) on my worst enemy. That’s even BEFORE bits of it start moving.
As I have never operated a T-72 of course it is not from my personal experience.
Helis being a pain at top tier could be fixed by shoving airfields and helipad 70 or more km further away making it harder to simply shoot and forget over the helipad
meaning if you get hit,you fall on the ground and youre dead,instead…in the current status,most of the times when you get hit,you fall on the helipad and you simply repair
Well folks - that’s what I call a breakdown.
It was simply an observation. I HAVE sat in a T-72, then in a Centurion. I am of average height, average build. The Soviet tank was cramped, you needed to have the limbs of a gymnast to reach even common used controls and the turret was dominated by the big autoloader mechanism sat smack in the middle. It would just take the slightest mistake, putting one’s arm or leg in just the wrong place at the wrong time and the rest would be messy.
Now, Centurion. Positively roomy by comparison. I mean, it’s a tank - so it’s not luxury. However I could actually move around the turret. I could actually imagine using the thing for more than 20 minutes without bits of me getting eaten.
There lies the basic difference in tank design. The Centurion felt like it had been designed to carry four people and fight. The T-72 felt like it was put together first, then some room had to be found to squeeze in three incredibly small people in and around all the working parts.
Anyway, off you go and please do continue your rather strange descent…
i dont understand how yall shifted from speaking INGame related stuff to IRL ones
It’s the War Thunder forums - it’s something of an occupational hazard.
However you are right. I shall scuttle away from the thread and return to my usual haunt in the British Weapons Thread.
No actually the first account I heard was Iraqi? T-72 crew who reported to the US/British the T-72 autoloader could cause injury.
As I am not a T-72 crew and considering how poor the T-72 is in other aspects of crew comfort and safety it was believable.
If you have a jet that carries Paveway 4s you can fly mach jesus and toss them on the helipad
Great when a couple of Mi-28s are rearming or hovering just above it.
RedEffect’s favorite tank isn’t Soviet or Russian.
The primary time he was incorrect was with Arjun, which he made many corrective videos on.
Also, if you’re of average height [5 foot 9 inches], then you should’ve fit comfortably in T-72 turret positions; it’s only if you’re notably above average that you’d be uncomfortable.
I’m above average height, with average build, and have fit into every single vehicle I’ve sat in.
Granted, I haven’t sat in a T-72 myself, but I have a feeling I’d be comfortable in the turret positions. Not likely the driver’s position because they preferred shorter people than average for the driver.
Youre countering Air with Air tho
Shoving everything a lot of kms away will prevent repairing when they get hit
I’m 1.89 meters tall, if I were the loader on an Abrams tank, I wouldn’t feel comfortable standing there.
100% most SAMS cannot deal with it, but toss bombing also keep you out of range of BUK and usually IRIS-T systems
The Abrams certainly does literally, in both directions of travel in fact.
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So a manual assist loader…
No im not paid I just love to point out logical fallacies.
Unlike modern loaders that don’t require button presses and simply load the next shells designated by the computer, I don’t see how this is a “auto loader”
Oh I never think X Contry could be X country tbh. They all have their ups and downs, pros and cons.
Cool but can you find any information about T series autoloaders history of choping off limbs ? Because i can’t
That wasn’t even the original claim though, it was that there was no safety precautions such as a pressure sensor in the T series’ autoloader, which is why your “claim” of the the Ammo doors came up.
Can you even source any of the claims you have made?