Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

AAs have a job to counter air, so if they can’t do that they’re pretty much useless, doesn’t matter if you’re better than other contemporaries.

That’s like you’re the best at football in your friend group but you’d still be pretty useless when playing with professionals.

IR + IOG is nothing spectacular on a missile.
It being faster is definitely an advantage but as stated, nothing spectacular.

Drawing conclusions from a YT video, how fitting.

Non-FnF missile helicopters were and still are easier to counter than FnF ones.

So why you arguing that Pantsir dominated for 14 months? That’s a huge fact.

Deliberately ignoring it having more explosive mass compared to other missiles.

Nice gaslighting.

Vikhr can easily shoot down incoming aircrafts, kill tanks, shoot down helis from spawn to spawn, this is indeed a good missile and did not need another one to replace it.

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I’ve never once seen a Pantsir frag a competent top CAS player in matches, video, or screenshots on social media platforms.
None, zero.
The only time Pantsirs get frags against Su-30/34, Rafale/Mirage, and F-15E/F-16C is when those aircraft allow Pantsir to hit them by getting close.

Being the best of the useless ones. What a title to have.

Doesn’t make it any more spectacular.

Actually you’re the one trying to gaslight with your “evidence”.

Still worse than any FnF missile.
It definitely needed upgrading as manually guided missiles are so 2020.

Yet how many 11.7 aircraft have to deal with the new SPAA. Think we should make bring top tier aircraft drag your ground their their BR.

A 14.0 F-15E or Su-30 shouldn’t be lowered to 13.0. They should drag your 12.0 tanks to 14.0.

The Buk, IRIS-SLM, and CLAWS I think are too much for a lot of the 11.7 or lower aircraft. Especially the slower strike aircraft. Dodging the manually guided missiles is one thing, dodging FnF ARH missiles is another thing.

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The Pansir is tough but is limited to engaging a single target at a time. So if there’s multiple aircraft up it struggles, not to mention range and line-of-sight give you at least a chance.

The latest SPAA can fire a multiple targets at once and no longer have to worry if the target drops out of line of sight.

At this time a few changes I’d follow is reduction in ammo, maybe removing the ability to rearm outside of a base. Maybe reduction to a single launcher for the more potent systems as to have an artificial limit to to potential spam of missiles.

But ultimately I doubt much will come for awhile. US win rates will tank again while Germany and Russia will either rise or be unchanged. Those two seem to get teamed up together more often than with the US. Partly I think for the obsession on hating US players.

Both the Leclercs or 2A5NL/2A6NL are pretty easy to master. Unlike the Type 10s they are all pretty straight forward.

2A5 and A6 maybe, but tbh i don’t play them

Leclerc ? Far more similar to type 10 : autoloader with nice damage output, but lower pen and slower reload, a bit more armor, but if anyone sees your hull you’re basically dead

Definitively not as straight forward as “take an armored tank with a low profile, cover the weakspots with bushes, press W and hope it sticks”

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It was lowest even before IRIS-T got added…

I think it started declining after the addition of ARH, and even more so after F15E, EF, and Rafale were added

I’ve got so many games where i had more air kills than ground kills because of the intensive Su30SM spam

problem is, 3, 5 or even 10 aircrafts down fully loaded with AGMs starts having an impact on the spawn points rather quickly.

Lots of people spawning a light, doing some quick spot or caping a base, then rushing into a plane only to get obliterated by an AMRAAM or MICA and leaving the game

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I had game where our team killed 22 planes and enemy 18. At top tier,last week. That was pain.

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“Ground RB” they said

“It will be fun” they said

That’s why i stick to around 8-9 br. Top tier is just continuous missile spam, and the battle isn’t even decided on the ground

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According to who you? Who never fly heli?
Well to big surprise it was easiest compare to all and my K/D both air and ground also pretty high on 28NM compare to the rest of my heli.

It can more than enough just because average RU main are so bad at flying heli doesn’t mean it wasn’t.

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Your name is literally in russian, I think you have a bias yourself

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Cyrillic = Russian
What a time to be alive lmao.

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Vikhr definitely not worse than hellfire but mile better i can assure you that it faster have proxy fuse ability to hand guided in case of losing lock make it for utility which hellfire can’t once it lost lock if target aren’t stand still it miss

PARS got it FnF after vikhr before that it laser guided like hellfire as place holder.

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Serbian, russian, same same but diffrent but still same
Serbia is just a mini russia my point still stands

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I don’t draw conclusions from only my own personal experience so no.
It’s easy to guess though.

Players being bad can be used as an argument for literally any vehicle.

The Type 10 is far less straight forward. Most of the is incredibly straight forward. Good mobility, good gun handling, average NATO depression, good reload. Meanwhile in the Type 10 you have to deal with bad gun handling and you have to use the suspension to get good gun depression.

I have both the Type 10 and Leclerc is very similar to the Abrams in playstyle and in how straight forward it is. Although I do agree that the T-80U/BVM are even more straight forward.

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Didn’t mean to offend ya