Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

the F-35 isnt really an air supiriority fighter

it is a sensor or cas platform at best shown by its inabilty to carry internal IR missiles

and even then the cost per F-35 is higher than the number send by @Ghost_of_TelAviv earlier
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That’s more like it mate.
The Stuff from Thunderskill is not only ridiculously out dated, it is also never accurate within a small margin.

It shows it as if USSR has a 50 percent win rate when in reality it’s the worst out the big 3

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Do we know what export cost the Su-57 is offered at?
Oh yes F-35 is expensive and while not a dedicated air superiority aircraft it has the means to do it all.
However as you pointed out it is better served remaining near invisible to Radar and DL Aim120D/Aim260 shots from F-15EX and F-22.

so you need atleast 2 planes to operate effectively instead of a single F-35

increasing the cost even further, because now you need to planes to do the job of what a single plane has done, which isnt great for fuel consumption either

and think of all the CO2 that yould be saved by only having a single jet for the job /s

The 3BM60 is absolutely not a lol pen cannon, it sits quite comfortably in the middle of top tier roughly.

On one tank in the BVM

The T72’s aka T90M has the slowest top tier reload.
T80 BVM is a fixed 6.5 which is slower than all my leopards, leclercs, Challangers, merkavas, Abrams as well as most the other MBTs such as ariete and what not.

They don’t if they get penned they die almost every time due to ammo or fuel explosion or crew wipe.

What russian Tank features a coaxial HMG? Bar the damn T10M or OBJ 279 which aren’t at all what are spoken about?

Last i checked the T90M has a 7.62 MM coax

1 BVM at top tier which is an average tank, T80U is pretty poor with 3bm46 though the mobility is nice.

The T90M is gash, theres literally two top tier MBT’s for Russia, in which one is a slow heavy T72.
Fun fact HE can also nuke T90M from teh roof

As should be done

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Aren’t you the one arguing for the SU-57 here? “the ability to actively produce something matters” is NOT an argument you should use LMFAO

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I will be honest I am not going to pretend I have any Idea on the capabilities of an F-35. I would imagine it is excellent and can fight in the A2A environment if needed.

The problem the F-35 has is it had to follow from the F-22 and had to meet so many requirements for all 3 branches of the US armed forces. The more F-35s sold and procured will bring the overall cost per unit down.

Similar to what Russia is doing with the Felon now they are offering it to reduce the cost per unit and cover some of those development costs while also pursuing other programmes the Su-75 and the unnamed 6th Gen

Hahahaha explain how Rooivalk is better than Ka-52.

it definitely can, it can carry very effective long range air to air missiles

and acording to reports on the F35A it can keep up with an F16 in a dogfight while caring internal air to ground ordinance and extra fuel

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I don’t believe the US would accept an airframe that couldn’t
F-35 has had a long standing smear campaign and I’m not going to say who has been actively trying to smear it…But we all know

not really it isnt that fast it cant carry to much payload only thing it really has is its avionics (besides stealth)

making it not to great for BVR either due to its speed, the EF is by far a way better A2A platform

thats why germany is only replacing its Tornados with the F-35

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It actually does personify a lot looking at stats.

F8U2 was a great example of showing how it was slamming when it was left at 10.0 and the rest of vehicles moved up.

Aka most folks who were negative in every other plane would be 2.0KD with the F8U2

No but doing well in a variety of vehicles shows an understanding of the game

  • mechanics-
  • vehicle styles
  • nuance of what is statistically more at an advantage.

For example the BVM lacks in a lot of areas. Most who haven’t used it don’t believe that when they are told so.
Your stats also are abysmal mate, so generally when you talk about things, it means you lack the experience both in game, and with the aformentioned list to make your own tanks do well.

So when you mention imbalance and instantly jump to something like teh BVM it sounds more like parroting another persons opinion or generalised nonsense of russian bias.

Im gonna stop you right here, you’ve not used any other top tier MBT’s bar the CR2s which aren’t the best.

The M1A2 I can literally hold W and steam roll entire flanks.

CR2E and BN are balanced with the BVM, CR2s being my 2nd most used top tiers in game, Abrams being first.

That’s a wiki link… plus, fire like water would spill out towards whatever is the least amount of pressure against it.

This is also assuming the tank has no HEAT or HE loaded which could instantly detonate upon penetration.

explosions still follow fluid dynamics so the pressure will follow the path of least resistance

just like water

Ngl, the BVM is one of the best tanks at toptier. The only thing that sets it back is its reverse speed and gun depression. Everything else is either average (reload, pen) or fantastic (armor, gen 3 thermals, fantastic HP/T and forward speed).

The T90M and T72 are pretty average, though.

I have played most nations top tier…

There really isn’t “Russian Bias”

If anything the Leo2a7V is bias lol

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Biased in the way that yes the Leopard 2A7 should be incredible it is in the real world.
Yet in game it isn’t that much better than a T-80BVM.

They have the same quality of thermals (Gaijin takes an absolute liberty with Russian thermal quality)
Similar levels of protection and similar fire power.

We must remember that the T-80BVM is a modernised 70s T-80 design with additional ERA, changes to armour array and changes to the FCS system
Leopard 2A7 is a modernised 2A5 a 1995 design a lot changes in 20 years.

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We must remember that the leopard 2A5 is a modernized Leopard 2A0 which was build in the late 70s and early 80s, with changes to armour array and changes to the FCS system

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leopards beat it out, Abrams beat it out , arguably in other fields other tanks beat it, e.g type 10 beats it for mobility , reload, round etc

it’s an average tank its got good mobility and decent armour, that is it.

It is miles better than a BVM n I’ve not even got it yet.

How ? the BVM uses last I checked french bought thermals, same as the T90M.
the firepower of the russian tanks, aka reload and penetration are both underperforming?

You say that as if the 2a5 ISN’T based around the 2A4 mate… which is the same age.

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  • true
  • false unless your mentioning T-80s, in which everything else has abysmal Reverse gears while only the T-80s are barely okay.
  • false again, pretty much all other nations except Japan have 100 more pen than Russian tanks…
  • false, all other nations reload by at least 0.5 secs and as fast as 3.1 secs faster than Soviet tanks.
  • false, massively over preforming ERA? Please show me where. Relict and Kontact - 5 actually under preform in KE protection by 8~% and 2.66~% respectively.
  • false, most do not feature coax HMG… in fact Russian 7.62s don’t break walls unlike German 7.92s.
  • false again. Great survivability if your never penned and people aim for the worst spots to hit. Otherwise your dead upon first pen.
  • true, but it took forever to get great cas / spaa. Nor does having multiple versions of a tank really matter. There’s so many abrams / leopards.

You’ve shown me you just regurgitate false hoods others have told you.

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