Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Your argument: “nu uh”
My argument: provides actual data.

I’m not pulling any reason out lol. The best “on paper” ship is the Yamato.
Funnily enough it has the worst kd rn.
Maybe botting has returned?

But it’s funny you said:

Meaning you agree. Wow. Maybe your finally seeing common sense?

If that’s the case I guess the German players are by far the worst, yet in my experience both the German and American players are the worst when it comes to literally any game mode.

Do I need to get the Bismarck / Iowa / Yamato to prove that they are just as capable if not more so?

Just as when I got the fox nerfed for its over estimation of turret drive, purely because it was far more powerful than people let on?

Or the T58 how everyone continued to tell me “it’ll be fine at 8.3! Well balanced! Not OP at all because no stabilizer!”
Meanwhile my kd in the T58 is a 4.268 right now… my highest kd vehicle ever. Certainly higher than anything Russian. So what does that tell you?

??? I compared the Soyuzs components to its peers you just said “its cuz of bots” with no evidence whatsoever lol. The Yamato would be good with bigger maps that dont make its diamond armor into a shot trap.

I do not. Its just a stupid argument since thats completely unproven anectodal evidence. Maybe Soyuzs kills are all players and Iowa is all bots, then Soyuz is even stronger.

And by my experience USSR are equally bad. Thats why anecdotal evidence is useless. Funnily enough thats all you Soyuz defenders have.

You can read the stats and see that they are not.

That the T58 in underBRed? No idea what that has to do with Soyuz tho

You clearly don’t get that:

NAVAL KILLS REGARDLESS OF BEING AI / PLAYERS ARE COUNTED AS PLAYERS NOW.

There is no way to tell how many players / Ai have been killed and to merely assume its all players is just a terrible point.

2nd

I can read the stats and say “wow, stats! If only they were all based off of one person to get an accurate reading of all the vehicles!”

The problem with stats is you can get really great or really bad players in them.

For example, the abrams.

Vs.

Although being vastly better than the Ariete… it has worse performance why is that? Players, players that can skew stats.
Therefore your argument is kinda pointless.

3rd
The T58 has to do with the SovetSky, because you have the perception the ship is OP when it isn’t, versus people have the perception that the T58 isn’t OP when it is.

It’s called bias, and you have it.

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I get that. YOU JUST DONT GET THAT THERES NO REASON WHY SOYUZ WOULD BE THE ONLY BB WITH A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER NUMBER OF BOT KILLs.

The Ariete has 1/10 of the games and is a minor nation. Soyuz is played a lot and is also a major. So that complete argument is bollocks

No one who’s not a us player thinks that the T58 is balanced just like no one who’s not a ussr plater thinks that Soyuz is not the best bb.

You are just as biased, the difference to me is that I have objective stats and the objective comparison of its components that you still didn’t comment whatsoever

So when I get my Iowa, and prove you wrong, I will loveeee to see that reply. In fact, I’m going to bookmark this.

The stats and comparison… the SovetSky has more HE filler likely due to the explosive compound. That’s really the only difference I see. Yamato has the most pen and armor, and the biggest guns. So no I don’t see your point there.

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Please do.

18mm more pen 15kg less explosive filler on a 56mm bigger gun lol. Diamond shaped armor with a shot trap just next to the 70% bigger magazines. Yeah Yamato is truly a beast compared to ss lol

Laughing this thread still exists. “Russian teams” barely if any at all, seen any matches where ive seen russia face against just nato countries. But if anything in sim ground, China n Rus dominate to the extent i suppose there could be an argument for them, but thats also due to a large factor of players lacking situational awareness and ability to last longer than 2 mins and have actual SPAA/Anti cas(Jets) lineup.

Think ground sim needs to remove that simple “1000 sp” you get at the start, and make it simply like grb, but hey ho. They dont care abt simulator battles much anyway

Why couldn’t you ?
Give them bit of a reload buff which is a balancing feature anyways, find some sikrit dokuments about a prototype transmission that increases their reverse speed and you eliminated a large chunk of their woes.

It would still be in the top 3 helicopters in the game, which is plenty enough.

38MT without IOG and with worse optics would still be really good and arguably the best AGM out there.

Fine, you do you.

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To add to what motorola said,

The Jagm profile was now completely is updated with the hellfire presets, which has made the missiles almost much much better, not to only add upto how cancerous it is as much with 16 of them. Atleast the Lmur is 8.

Even the funnier thing is, when they talk about Russian cas being so op, when it wasnt and the US multiroles cas jets were dominating the balance and killing the su25s with their f-14s n F16s. No one cared to question balance, and this thread is nothing but just two faced personalities that would whine regardless if russia does anything better. Meanwhile rafale in air rb, leopard 2A7V/Strr in ground rb and Irist Slm continue to dominate. Any word on the balance for these? Nope, simply dont care.

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Depends on launch range I’d say… because IOG is a very useful tool. And unless the 38MT suddenly went Mach 3.5+ anything past 5 miles firing distance will likely be out of the picture by the time it lands, or is behind something which in any case it wouldn’t matter.

Pretty much any weapon with IoG is good. Even early AGM-65s

Russian mains aren’t much better than US and German mains in ground and air RB though.

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Many players want more balance for the Rafale

Good, they can give it HOB/proxy too

Sure gaijin could do that but since they pride themselves with making a „realistic“ game id say that would somewhat destroy that

The ussr tree might be able to cope for one of these things but if you hit all with the realism hammer they’d be in some serious trouble

Yeah? There are plenty of threads about the rafale and how unfair it is. And the 2A7 gets constantly named as the best tank by far. The difference is just that both are actually real and in the case of the 2A7 are already severely hampered compared to irl

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Lmao all these yapping and EF/Rafael still beat out the Su34/30SM without the KM38T. The amount of cope lol. Not to mention even having “worse” ground force when comparing to other nation. France still have better winrate than all 3 on the daily basis. That not counting the other Minor nation like Japan with dogshit top tier line up and no CAS.

Holy cope for someone who only play major

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Debatable

I used to play France only, i sometimes grind USSR now and let’s just say the word “erratic” would be quite the euphemism to describe their behavior, quite frankly not that different to the 2 other main nations (and dare i say sometimes even worst, depending on BR)

There’s no data, only a 88% that does not mean anything

Soyuz has :

  • The best firepower, with the best pen + filler combination (852mm for 39kg of TNT eq) and a normal fire rate for its BR

  • The best armor, with a thickness equivalent to Yamato (375-420mm), but without the diamond shape weakness. The side armor also extends passed the first front bulkhead, with a second smaller front bulkhead, making frontal pen almost impossible

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Great contribution chief, am I wrong tho?

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That’s exactly his point though ?

A Su without the fictionnal ammo would be quite bad, as it should ?

France’s Rafale problem is quite well documented and people are complaining about it all over the forums (with good justification, i might add)

Holy cope reply. Wrong or not still extremely cope , bro main germany lmao

Cry about it , it could or it could not. Who know , we don’t live in a timeline where the Su34/30SM doesn’t have KH38MT. We live in the one that it does but using it to justify EF/Rafael domination in ground battle , not even counting ARB. Is pathetic lmao.

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I suggest you use a translation tool, it’s barely readable and i can’t even understand the point you are trying to make