Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Ok… all R-77s on Russian service airframes need to be replaced with R-77-1s as the Russian military never officially adopted it.

Not be rabidly screaming about “Russian bias” means you are on Putins’ pay roll, didn’t you get the memo? Now excuse me I need to call the Kremlin because I havent gotten my pay cheque yet.

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it should not be happening at all. not even every 2-5 games. should be zero tolerance from random 0 spall darts that even fly directly threw crew and ammo and do NOTHING!!

i mean how on gods green earth you can possibly watch a 1500mps dart with over 6kg of mass travel through the entire turret crew compartment to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as if the modeled components arent even PRESENT and be like “oh yeah its fine” is absolutely mind boggling to me. this crap would never happen IRL and in game it happens WAYYYYY too often.

Meanwhile you make the same shot on LITERALLY ANYTHING NON RUSSIAN and whoopdiedoo, your rounds actually DO SOMETHING.

you pair this bs that you even admit happens every 2-5 games (when it shouldnt be happening at all) with the fact russia has the best IFVS, best cas, best helis, armor (even without the BS included) and best spaa ( tothe tune of literally every other nations cas being effectively useless if theres a single pantsir spawned WHICH YOU GUYS GET FOR FREE BY DEFAULT BTW). no wonder russian bias is such a popular talking point in 2026. We arent blind, its obvious who gaijins favorite nation is.

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yap yap yap my wife is the goat, i fear there’s not much more to say.

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your just lying… steaight up, there is no way you shoot leos ion the side and the round jsut does nothing in the same manner it happens with russian tanks… there is just no way. you are being disengenuous and nobody believes you. im not even reffering to volumetric. volumetric assumes a non pennetration. I PENNED AND IT DID NOTHING!! also even if you wanna pretend like volumetricis a problem on leos… THERES WAY MORE VOLUMETRIC ON RUSSIAN TANKS ANYWAY SO WTF ARE YOU EVEN SAYING.!
you just have an excuse for everything bc you are a gaijin shill and you want this game to fail. youre ok with favoritism and blatant bias towards one nation…

also stop bringing up your sepv3 stats… its the first abrams in years to be even close to the same combat effectiveness as russian tanks and teams in general. a better baseline for abrams performance is the modeling that is most common on them which is almost 0 volumetric and badly modeled turret ring armor. literally most of the abrams still have the old model. a better comparison, especially since the sepv3 is so new to the game (and spedmonkey bmpt players are actually having to think for once) is your sepv2 stats which despite you playing it more, and even stating you lik epalying it more, you still ahve a lower winrate in it than any of your top tier russian t-series tanks. again your point is moot.

you ahve a 64% winrate in the t-72b3
63% in your t90A which isnt technically top teir but many people drag it up
59% in t90M
64% in your t80-u
61% in your t80 bvm
and 50% in t80ue1
all tanks you dont even have that much time in, and apparently despise. Even though your winrates in even your best top tier abrams that you even have 4 times as many games in on average are significantly lower… mostly below 53% all while you say the abrams is the best thing since sliced bread… and your OWN STATS dont even reflect that.

It happens sometimes, which is mostly just a skill issue moment on my end. Just it’s a skill issue on your end if it’s that common against Russian MBTs.

Or maybe, just maybe, I can differentiate what is overpowered/bias and what is just a skill issue.

Pantsir SM-SV, KH38MT, BMPT (until this update) and LMUR + LDIRCM are examples of Russia getting overpowered stuff.

The T-series are all decent at best and struggling against them is skill issue.

I mean the problem with russian MBTs eating shots is not really volumetric, is it? Its a combination of ERA being modeled inconsistently af regarding post pen damage/dart wobble and whatever the hell this is: Russian Bias in 2026? - #5174 by Jεcka
Volumetric is an issue but i dont think russian tanks eating side shots without proper damage can be attributed to it. (in general)

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Yeah I misread the initial comment slightly.

There is a bunch of questionable stuff with Russian MBTs, but imo it doesn’t equate to getting Gaijined twice per game every game. At that point there is also a significant element of skill issue involved.

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oh wow “theres a bunch of questionable stuff with russian mbts” but “no their totally not broken”… what a joke of a statement

There is a difference tho. Something can be modeled like absolute crap and be as beneficial as possible but the vehicle can still be bad overall.

They aren’t broken. They are mid-decent MBTs with 1-2 strong points and mediocre points for everything else.

Like I said before, if you spend half as much time on getting good as you spend on whining you might not struggle as much.

lmao

Yeah see stuff like this is insane… and people like RENZO over here think thats perfectly fine to have hidden freakin plating that eats spalll in russian tanks.

wont see stuff like this on NATO mbts i can tell you that much… certainly not to the extent of russian mbts.

Oh no, once every couple of games I get Gaijined. Oh well the Russian top tier ground team got roflstomped anyway.

It’s kinda crazy how much handholding Russian MBT’s get, just to still be some of the worst in top tier…

really makes you think!
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I didn’t want to waste my time replying, but here goes: first, your shot hit at a very steep angle; second, the Relikt did its job by destroying the tip of your round’s penetrator, reducing the remaining penetration power and slowing the projectile down; third, War Thunder doesn’t model the actual destruction of the projectile do you get it now? In the replay, it looks like the whole projectile is going through the tank, but in reality, only a much smaller portion of it penetrated. After all, the Relikt destroyed the penetrator tip and deflected its course; the remainder had to go through the vehicle’s road wheels, pierce the armor, and pass through the spall liner which significantly reduces shrapnel. What actually got through was a tiny fraction, and the spall liner cut down on the shrapnel. Also, the game’s replay isn’t reliable. Are some of you seriously that you don’t know how ERA works?

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Your memory must be as bad as a goldfish’s, or else you’re just a hypocrite; Renzo surely remembers well when the Leopard 2A7V was an absolute destroyer that soaked up every shot to its side because there was nothing modeled there.

well thats not how the game is, or how the Leos behave currently so who cares

Ah yes, the time when going side on to the enemy was better than taking a direct frontal hit

pre nerf spall liners can burn in the deepest pits of hell

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Now that they are modeling the vehicles internally, they could buff the spall liners again; also, regarding the turret baskets on the Abrams and Leopard, there should be changes to how shrapnel impacts are handled for instance, if a hit lands right in the middle, I don’t think it should completely disable the turret traverse.

Imagine how high we could have gotten the global average SEPv3 stats if we didn’t have people like ElectedElit dragging the average down. Would have been glorious.

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