If we are gonna skip that far back, then Leonard di Vinci has everyone beat
Also a country doesn’t kill a design if it’s good XD holy copium
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You:
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Such as what? Smoothbore was tested on the T95 as well as APFSDS. Composite armor was also tested on the T95 well before the introduction of the T62 and T64. Just because the Soviets put into production first doesn’t mean everyone else copied them. Most countries had their own programs independent of each other.
Yes they do, lmao.
Things that would have been fine get killed all the time for various reasons. Politics, budgetary reasons, no longer required. The f-20 springs to mind, nothing wrong with it at all but overshadowed by the f-16, no foreign sales etc.
Xm2001 is another great example.
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Competitive designs get killed sure, but the mystic Cyrus was exclaiming how they killed it because it was “too good” which is either gross incompetence from the USA military, or, the AH-56 was utter crap.
Either way it was never used, so we’ll never know how good it was.
It’s like playing poker, you spent the money to get into the game, why would you toss a winning hand? You wouldn’t.
Therefore:
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I mean, requirements change, or a great system might not meet the ones that actually matter despite doing great everywhere else, or the vehicle may be outstanding but costs an absolute fortune.
The best vehicle doesn’t always win and there’s a plethora of reasons why that might be.
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(Disclaimer this is from Wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt, but it does mention the controversy with the USAF)
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Also can we get back on the topic of the game
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It’s not the Matrix; they live in a bubble. Honestly, I find them funny. They go through this whole mental exercise to prove something and fail miserably, and when they can’t prove it, they resort to personal attacks or attacks on another country’s equipment.
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Wow thats probably the most insane example of lack of self awareness ive ever seen
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It’s usually the same people in every thread that derail sadly.
If you guys feel the need to go off topic go to PMs.
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Unfortunately, we don’t have many people like you, or @_Renzo like those who are calm and respond honestly.
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Dude, you’re one of the worst here, lol. Just admit it already: “I hate Russia and that’s why I’ll be complaining about them in every thread.” Just funny
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Thank you for proving me right.
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Great answer bud, truly a testament to your rhetorical skills.
Why do you think I would get into a discussion about “free and democratic countries” in a place that isn’t even for that?
You just proved that I was right in what I said. Haha
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I’m surprised this wasn’t closed for being repeatedly off topic when we stopped talking about top tier and instead about:
2 real world conflicts
Who invented the helicopter
The world press freedom index
Probably something else I’m missing
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Because you accused others of living in an information bubble yet youre the one relying exclusively on controlled, homogeneous sources from one country.
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Since some people on both sides (mostly NATO) started doing these things instead of debating the real reason for the topic.
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