The usual rusian wewuzery
Even if you consider him an inventor of heli, which as it usually is, kinda wrong?
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Ok you gotta explain that one, because that is a wild statement.
I mean one side is a media and research landscape made from 32 countries with generally the lowest corruption and highest press freedom in the world the other side is one country with insane corruption and abysmal freedom so i dont really know how someone could not be biased towards one side.
Oh so you stick by your misinformation?
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The Vs300 right? The one made in America by Igor Sikorsky, a Ukrainian-American.
Also wasn’t there limited rotorcraft employed by Germany during ww2?
If we want to go even further back, wouldn’t the French hold that title?
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It really depends on how you define inventing. You can throw in early china and Davinci for concepts for vertical flight. The term helicopter is french for a reason. Youve got early italian concepts. The first practical rotorcraft is spanish. The first real controllable helicopter is a Focke Wulf from germany. Sikorsky did the first mass produced. Its really hard to pinpoint exactly who invented it which makes his statemeant all the more ridiculous
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You wouldn’t want Stingers buffed, trust me.
- I hate to break it to you, but calling someone wrong, doesn’t make them wrong, but please, continue to pull more straws :) it’s very funny
I ask the same of you. You and @H_ngma or @Jεcka couldn’t even confirm a date for dm73. You both pulled different years.
Would they?
Except that isn’t realistic. In that scenario it is likely in favor of Germany for Ground battles at least, the others are a toss up. But there is what 4-5 T-90s per 1 leopard?
They have an even earlier prototype if I recall. @I_MiikaL_I
@MightyBaozi
Can you explain to this man, that THEY haven’t cancelled the procurement of the leo2a8s for Italy? It was literally in the document You sent.
Just as it also says they’re trying to develop their own tank.
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If you unironically believe the T-90M is better than the 2A7, or the Eurofighter is worse than the Su-30SM, Then boy do I have a bucket of Ice water for yoh
😂 man, you love to put words in other peoples mouth.
That’s another piece of rusian propaganda. During the cold war - aquiring your foe’s machinery was a standard practice, remember the whole foxbat situation. They got it, evaluated it (probably had a good laugh) and then used it for training.
The industry that was so bad that they’ve been able to just snatch this cowbarn using their own heli.
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Given that I quoted your exact words, where am
i putting them in your mouth?
On that note Russian missile and gunsight technology was so bad they had to steal a downed F-86 Sabre and “steal” an AIM-9.
I explained it further down, you know what down is right? That’s where it was, had you kept reading
AFAIK Sikorsky was building biplanes untill he’s been able to build a heli of his desigh, which was vs-300, still later than FW, but designs are different though.
Just like the US took a lot from T-62s and T-64s
Neither does thinking youre right make you right.
So? You can just take my BAAAINBw source, its a pretty good one and a lot better than nothing which was your source.
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DUDE WHAT? How wilfully ignorant are you?
- Paul Cornu(France) built the first manned helicopter to lift off vertically under its own power in 1907. It flew only a few meters off the ground.
- Igor Sikorsky (Kyiv-born engineer who emigrated to the United States in 1919) built the VS-300 in 1939. His Sikorsky R-4, introduced in 1942, became the first helicopter in the world to enter mass production and operational service with the US Army. The USSR only began their own helicopter work after WW2, and out of Sikorsky designs. The Mi-1 was the very first Soviet helicopter in 1950.
What kind of deranged cope is this? The AH-1Q in 1969 with its TOW and stabilized gunsight is weaponry wise on par with the 1980s Mi-24V. The American helicopter industry always was and still is the most advanced in the world.
The 1970s AH-56 Cheyenne had a better design than the Ka-50. It was so good that the USAF helped kill the project because it would have competed with the A-10. Interservice rivalry at its finest. Its design was so ahead of its time that push propellers are what we’re seeing again now with the Raider and similar.
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If we are gonna skip that far back, then Leonard di Vinci has everyone beat
Also a country doesn’t kill a design if it’s good XD holy copium
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You:
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Such as what? Smoothbore was tested on the T95 as well as APFSDS. Composite armor was also tested on the T95 well before the introduction of the T62 and T64. Just because the Soviets put into production first doesn’t mean everyone else copied them. Most countries had their own programs independent of each other.
Yes they do, lmao.
Things that would have been fine get killed all the time for various reasons. Politics, budgetary reasons, no longer required. The f-20 springs to mind, nothing wrong with it at all but overshadowed by the f-16, no foreign sales etc.
Xm2001 is another great example.
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