Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Ok you’re scared to admit that the german side would perform better, gotcha

Lmao, if that is what you take away from it, go ahead if it makes you happy.

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Except totally wrong.

  • the Russians invented the helicopter
  • Mi-4 was literally out the same year bro calm down with your mis-information campaign.
  • the American helicopter industry was so bad that they had to steal a Hind to reverse engine it to make better helicopters.
  • 1986 KA-50 was leagues ahead in its design, while being not only safer for pilots, sturdier than any other helicopter of the time. Hence why the Russian Mi-24s were nicknamed “the flying tank”
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This is the kinda crap that polarizes people and makes them biased into one side.

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I never back tracked once. Man, you cannot read clearly.

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I mean we would have to ignore a lot of things that make Germany Germany.

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This is disconnected from irl logistical or political limitations, just purely a deathmatch between a set amount of both on each side

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The usual rusian wewuzery
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Even if you consider him an inventor of heli, which as it usually is, kinda wrong?

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Ok you gotta explain that one, because that is a wild statement.

I mean one side is a media and research landscape made from 32 countries with generally the lowest corruption and highest press freedom in the world the other side is one country with insane corruption and abysmal freedom so i dont really know how someone could not be biased towards one side.

Oh so you stick by your misinformation?

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The Vs300 right? The one made in America by Igor Sikorsky, a Ukrainian-American.

Also wasn’t there limited rotorcraft employed by Germany during ww2?

If we want to go even further back, wouldn’t the French hold that title?

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It really depends on how you define inventing. You can throw in early china and Davinci for concepts for vertical flight. The term helicopter is french for a reason. Youve got early italian concepts. The first practical rotorcraft is spanish. The first real controllable helicopter is a Focke Wulf from germany. Sikorsky did the first mass produced. Its really hard to pinpoint exactly who invented it which makes his statemeant all the more ridiculous

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You wouldn’t want Stingers buffed, trust me.

  • I hate to break it to you, but calling someone wrong, doesn’t make them wrong, but please, continue to pull more straws :) it’s very funny

I ask the same of you. You and @H_ngma or @Jεcka couldn’t even confirm a date for dm73. You both pulled different years.

Would they?

Except that isn’t realistic. In that scenario it is likely in favor of Germany for Ground battles at least, the others are a toss up. But there is what 4-5 T-90s per 1 leopard?

They have an even earlier prototype if I recall. @I_MiikaL_I

@MightyBaozi
Can you explain to this man, that THEY haven’t cancelled the procurement of the leo2a8s for Italy? It was literally in the document You sent.
Just as it also says they’re trying to develop their own tank.

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If you unironically believe the T-90M is better than the 2A7, or the Eurofighter is worse than the Su-30SM, Then boy do I have a bucket of Ice water for yoh

😂 man, you love to put words in other peoples mouth.

That’s another piece of rusian propaganda. During the cold war - aquiring your foe’s machinery was a standard practice, remember the whole foxbat situation. They got it, evaluated it (probably had a good laugh) and then used it for training.
The industry that was so bad that they’ve been able to just snatch this cowbarn using their own heli.

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Given that I quoted your exact words, where am
i putting them in your mouth?

On that note Russian missile and gunsight technology was so bad they had to steal a downed F-86 Sabre and “steal” an AIM-9.

I explained it further down, you know what down is right? That’s where it was, had you kept reading

AFAIK Sikorsky was building biplanes untill he’s been able to build a heli of his desigh, which was vs-300, still later than FW, but designs are different though.