Pull, big warhead
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Because they’re the second best arh missile close range
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no, if anything its slower than it should, there are mountains of evidence for abrams to have 3-4s reloads for at least a few shots
you mean like how the M1128 striker has engagement time used for reload despite every source stating it has a faster reload than in game?
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Technically it is slower in game than IRL.
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Is Relic somehow not “3rd gen” ERA? Or am I missing a step somewhere?
Kontact-1 > Kontact-5 > Relikt > Monolith/Malachit
I’ve provided a source that claims success against 3rd Gen ERA.
I don’t mind it not going though at longer ranges(2km+), but at ~800 meters or so it really shouldn’t be having issues, let alone at Point Blank.
And we know that the US has been provided captured T-90s
It is known that M829A3 revised the tip’s design, and increased the Stiffness of the penetrator’s main body in comparison to A2.
And yet it would be another in the long line of reports that Gaijin just sit on and do nothing about.
They could also have spent the effort used to model Turret Baskets for the M1, effectively and fix other modeling issues. but no even though there are numerous acknowledged reports, none of them have been touched.
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Gaijins own interview with an Abrams crew member says faster than 5 LMAO
So unless you have an Aced, full leadership and loader crew skill, you don’t even have a combat qualified loader, on a 105mm Abrams
Regarding M829a4 Northrop Grumman came out back in 2024, stating M829A4 was designed to defeat 3rd gen reactive armor.
Sure buddy… with you it’s allways someone else’s “reading comprehension” or “follow the discussion”… just take the L as @llSolitairell-psn told you and be done. At this point you’re turning in to a meme.
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the captured T-90A that was spoted in Texas, dont use Relict.
Claims are good, but do they have any actual test data?
Russians claimed that Arena M APS can deffeat top-attack munitions, but nobody beleaved them until couple of weeks then they put up a video testing it againts Javelin.
Fair… but against what? K5? If that so, OK… everything else is just speculation, this is my point.
Yeah, absolutly agree… but unfortunetly fixing bugs is not profitable like adding new (premium) stuff.
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Wouldn’t happen to know where to find this video?
It’s not the original video, but one from RedEffect’s chanel
Your initial comment was about the 64E. Then you swapped to the Z10 with a statement that had nothing to do with the 64E. So you absolutely changed the goalposts. You guys are just genuinely incapable of having a good faith Argument
You’re hopeless
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This thread is too lol, i mean look at the name.
Even tho if russia ever wins its with a nato team demolishing another nato team
Great argument there bud.
It’s still A T-90, it’s not like the Hull was changed. and it’s not been burnt out so the Texolite layers would be untouched unlike burn hulls since pyrolysis occurs frequently.
Also it’d be much less of an undertaking to duplicate Relict modules than the underlying armor schema and plate to spec.
Nothing publicly available, would be interesting to know if any T-90M had been recovered on the Oryx database.
The TOW-2B or BLU-108/B for example work very differently.
Javelins are older and actually quite slow at a distance, and don’t have that steep a terminal dive in comparison to other systems with known dive angles.
And has a known time to 2,000m of 14 seconds
Note, Distribution statement: “A” on the cover page.
“When firing at a 2,000-meter target, the missile reaches a height of about 160 meters above the battlefield”
Further I don’t think there is confirmation of which variant is actually in the demonstration video, as the above source is for the FGM-148A; though we do know that changes to the missile were undertaken as part of the “Spiral 2” (FGM-148F) program.
As cited an unspecified “3rd Generation” ERA modules, I don’t think Kontact-5 is considered 3rd Gen, but 2nd Gen by most people.
We’ve got corroborating secondary sources, it would be enough for a report should -A3 be added in future, which as per gaijin, sans Bypass mechanic won’t improve things materially, which is was the reasoning for the increased rate of fire
But that’s the thing, fixing many of these “bugs” would have an impact on balance and so avoid the need for additions to adjust things one way or the other. So the actual pace of development could slow and so last more time before things become untenable. Which in the end adds more tolerance for more updates increasing the time any particular Premium would be useful leading to more sales volume.
No doub about A3/A4 even A2 for that matter can pen the hull, without the era. That was never any question and its allready in the game for the A2.
Exactly. Basicly is’t like schrodinger’s cat at this point.
Most if not all had there ERA fillers striped, before they ware abandoned… that’s why early in the conflict, there was the narrative that russian tanks are send without/filled with cardboard ERA plates. But if there ware some intact, they’re most definitely send to some US/NATO R&D site.
Probably still in the ranges of the APS radars and interception zone… but without any data on the system itself we can only speculate.
Probably some of the captured on frontline… if there is data which variants ware send, a r rough guesstimation could be made.
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You do get that Relict tiles, or facsimiles could be attached to the hull for testing, or the hull could be analyzed and duplicated to allow for performance to be modeled for subsequent destructive testing while preserving the original hull, its not like Relict actually involves anything too complicated physically, the hardest part would be the reproduction of the energetic material.
I doubt that it’s capable of intercepting a 2.5+ Km/sec projectile that needs to cover somewhere between 40~80 meters with a high radial speed, and angle of attack, let alone that the interceptor would have sufficient mass to meaningfully disturb the formation of the Slug.
Except for statements that it remains sufficient for use against 3rd Generation ERA systems, of which Relict is one.
So we know that at least -A3 & -A4 shouldn’t have an issue with “Threat” systems circa 2015, such as the T-90M.
Considering we know that intact samples of K-5 have been taken, and the geometry of the mounting brackets and voids / spacers are known. it shouldn’t be too hard to work backwards for Relict, since explosives leave behind specific signatures so performance would be known fairly exactingly, even without a live sample, a triggered hull would do if recovered in short order.
So we’re taking statemets like that for the gospel truth and we dont doub them for a single bit… but this…
… ???
Well it’s the best we’ve got.
What exactly do you think the BLU-108/B is?