Russian MBTs: Firepower and Protection versus NATO counterparts

It’s not remotely fast loading and it is still done in 4.77s, there is clear room for improvement across the entire process and all of your arguments thus far are completely debunked 5+ times.

Are you referring to yourself in third person?

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Sure they are bud. Judge jury and executioner over here.

All the videos but 1, disagrees with you. Most have higher than 6 sec reload. Some are high 5.75+ sec reloads.

You cannot produce evidence clearly, which means you are wrong.

Yup, and Gaijin models it as reload + having to shift two spaces in the autoloader, hence the 6.5 second reload, as having to calculate where each round is stowed and having your reload time be more or less random and dependant on where the next round you are trying to load is stowed compared to where the autoloader is currently at is too hard for Gaijin to program and bad for gameplay. Hence the “shift two spaces” part, as they deemed that to be an acceptable middle-ground.

More specifically the charges used by 3BM59 and 3BM60 don’t fit next to each other or themselves (neither 3BM59 next to 3BM59, 3BM59 next to 3BM60, or 3BM60 next to 3BM60) in the autoloader according to the T-80BVM manual (page 75 of part 1 if you’re interested).

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No one seems to be advocating for that except the guy arguing the the owning agencies tests are false but leveraging the Russian MOD as factual at the same time 🤣

There is also combat footage of 4-5 second reloads continuously.

Pretty funny ngl

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It’s the Fox thread all over again with this guy.

Lol. Lmao. Lmfao even.

You cannot pull " Nuh-uh! " Against official recorded documentation with multiple sources and testing. You literally cannot cope your way into being correct. You’re gonna just die on your hill of being woefully subjectively and objectively wrong while we all have a laugh at you because you just don’t know how to take an L.

Man, my sides.

It’s not the US’ fault that the Russians can’t make good autoloaders. Maybe they ought to build better tanks, because as we know unlike here in the game when it comes to IRL they’re objectively dogwater.

Cute flag, btw.

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I never said either were factual.
Stop being a troll.
Be productive or leave the thread.
simple as.

If you say we should take it to heart all documents are true beyond a doubt. Then clearly both have to be right, right ?
Or is your inability to read missing something?
@AK_Awful_Waffle

Really…? Where…? Because I’m not blind and I don’t see it anywhere in this thread.

You doing comedy now? This isn’t a memes channel

How is denying any and all sources showing your opinion to be invalid productive? You haven’t provided any documentation or evidence to suggest that your stance has any kind of basis from which to build. Nothing. Literally just “nuh uh” akin to that of a flat earthers retort against the globe conspiracy.

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Me literally showing you what 3-4 videos of loaders not loading sub 6 secs, you not realistically loading sub 5.75 secs. (No your load wasn’t an actual combat load so it doesn’t count).

Yup. No evidence at all, clearly, none.

I’ve shown you a video of a 5 second casual reload and it’s shown in documentation. That’s a primary source and a secondary source. Couldn’t get much better than that.

lol

Oh the irony.

So you’re leaving then?

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Practice what you preach, then. Nothing you’ve spewed in here is productive or useful. Take your leave.

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For the 90th time. That was an ideal situation reload. You seemingly can’t provide any evidence of a combat load other than a document which I’m sure was measured in the same metrics of an ideal situation load, which isn’t very realistic.

So no, you have yet to provide any substantial evidence to prove your claim.

It’s rather funny, anyone in opposition seems to be a USA & german main, while having not played nearly any Russian vehicles, coincidence?

It’s also rather funny you’re a Russian main, posting documents from the Russian MOD, while admitting to ignoring American DoD reports because they invalidate your argument.

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LOL that typical Russian main behavior
No surprise that they choose to ignore some western documents because “LiE aNd PrOpAgAnDa”
While thought that Russian documents
“tHeY dOn’T lIE lIKe ThE wEsT”

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You were shown they measured off-road at 12mph conditions at Fort Knox, KY in 1979-1980 and the mean reloads were taken from both stationary and moving reloads for a combined average of 5.3 seconds for what would have been less than 1 year rookie crewman.

??? What kind of cope is this?

Absolutely hilarious. Literally a knee slapper.

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I’d like to thank you from the bottom of my heart. This has been THOROUGHLY enjoyable to watch him perform 1980’s Russian gymnastics to shield his eyes from looking at reality. Absolutely top notch all around and it has been thoroughly enjoyable to read this exchange lmfao

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You are the typical “I don’t how to kill it, so I suffer”
And boy I wish I was as naive or sheepish as you, having everyone else do my thinking XD

@AK_Awful_Waffle

Is it also ironic
@ARK_BOI

Is also a usa main?

I’d love to see what mig is, but his profile is hidden, probably for good reason.

If you are pushing a retort out so quickly that you fail to do some simple grammar checks… well then maybe the conversation is becoming too personal. Let’s move on and if you have sufficient evidence or logic for a nerfed reload on the Abrams please feel free to submit a report.

I’ve been playing the game since May of 2012, I have every country in the game and over 16,000 hours.