Dude is only showing a MBT. @_Renzo , maybe show the other italian IFVs and other nerfed-to-the-ground light tanks, so we can really see how bad Italy is compared to Russia at top tier ? lmao
With their spikes that dont work and their light tanks without any armor. Cmon.
Why Leclercs/Arietes are at 12.7 ? They have no place there ??
Why BMPT only at 11.3 ?
Why french tiger helicopters are at 12.7, same than german tiger, while having 4 less FnF missiles ? As a mater of fact, why are all tiger heli only -0.3 BR compared to Mi28nm and ah 64E ??
Man, currently it is the NATO stuff that should be buffed/undertiered, not the russian stuff lol. It is the NATO stuff that are unbalanced in a bad way, what do they do about that ???
Yes and each and everyone has had moments where it was smashing.
Bar maybe italy.
Type 90s got to sit under BR’d for ages conveintly when a premium one had dropped
France , well a plethora of auto loading highly mobile mediums which slap AMX30 Super which arguably could goto germany.
Britain absolutely ruined the game for a whilewhen the centurions were added.
Arguably the best 10.7 lineup in the game for Tanks, cas and SPAA combo.
you realise that the auto loader isn’t what blows up, but teh shell in it?
If he takes like I do 16 shells the majority of the thing is empty.
Bit like how in a nato tank it is also empty.
You dyin to a T64B in an abrams is hilarious, like why are you sat there, why not push the forward hill so he can’t aim down as far?
the game has always been a semi - realistic game never has it claimed to be full on hyper realistic.
That attitude just shows you know nothing of the game.
CR2s the BN and the 2E are actually pretty decent, the other 3 are at a lower BR.
The ariete’s are sad but none are 12.7 and likely will slowly slide down in BR as BRs increase.
the Leclercs are some of the highest KD MBTs in game, and in my own experience with them, Solid ass tanks to use.
**in what world should any leclerc be 12.0? ??? the lowest the S1 and S2 could be is 12.3 lol.
What Leclerc equivelant is at 12.0?
the T72B3A arena with a crap APS is at 12.3 and is worse in almost every way bar the reound adn armour.
scuse me what? the leclrcs have great mobility. good optics, good thermals, good reload, consitently 5 seconds Which as I said @Ralin has sources directly from the manufactor stating that it should be 6
So it’s over buffed.
Arietes aren’t great armour wise ,still got LWS; gen 2 thermals commander and gunner, good mobility and DM53 at 11.7.
Doesn’t matter, it’s in 2 different trees.
What ? the 6.7 US and German heavies mug the IS2 off lol.
USA .At 6.7 you’ve got the
T26E1-1 which with the long 90 wipes IS2, for half the reload time.
T26E1 which has mobility and armour over the IS2 as well as reload rate.
T34 heavy which need I say more?
Germany has at 6.7
Tiger 2 (p) or now known as the NR150
Tiger 2 modern turret
Tiger 2 Sla.16 all of which makeIS2 look pathetic.
That does not include any TDs , mediums or SPG in that list.
Yes volumetric with an off shot will make stuff like DM53 bounce off a leopard 2a4 hull
And when they do, and disagree with you, you’ll call them russian mains and cry.
the clips in the post are poor shots for the most part, and others into volumetric hell.
Compared to the aformentoined heavies I just said.
The reddit is the place to go for it.
But Straight up you and I have never said in a situation where we disagree and I’ve thought, he’s baiting lol.
Type 90 slides into the backround again as if it didn’t destroy 10.3 for months.
Same as the Type 74 armour is wildly unpredictable lol.
Will u really x
HSTVL
better round
better mobility
better optics
better armour / survivability
better profile.
less situational.
it quite literally has better ammo what on christs earth are you on about?
HSTVL
2S38 has lower pen and spalling.
Well the type 90 sat at 11.3 for 6 months nearly , destroyed the entire bracket.
T58 sat there for almost a full pathc so 3 months and still is potent.
turm 3 never been patched.
Puma took them motnhs to get it where it should be.
the 2A7 had initial nerfs but is still the top dog for MBTs in teh game.
shall I continue? it took them time, they do little by little.
Do I agree with the methodology? no.
Do I absolutely acknowledge when changes are made? ofc I do .
so again, you’re talking about how Jags and such don’t loft enough when Lmurs do, they still loft.
Also hellfires at their BR of aroudn 10.7 are solid as hell missiles.
3BM60 is the most middling round in the game, it quite literally isn’t a good round.
3BM60 also does not have 600+ pen
It has about 570 something.
So no they have no where near comparable rounds.
I’ve never seen a tank with it’s auto laoder broken reload when it should not.
They also still have 7 second reloads on the T72 series MBT, as well as 6.4 on the T80 BVM,
so T80BVM reloads nearly 1.1 seconds slower than all my nato MBT at top tier bar the Leopards as they aren’t experted yet.
T-90M reloads almost a full 2 seconds slower than most nato MBTs.
What are you on about.
Video evidence has never been accepted for any nation.
the current reload on the leclerc is literally from brochures and is faster than IRL
The KH38MT i’ve stated and won’t state again, shouldbe removed. That’s undeniable as we do not have sufficient sources to add it.
However, if you would like to go down that road then most platforms in game would need overhauls and changes.
Okay mate you again are begining to completely ignore anything else I am saying
Videos are not used as sources as they are highly susceptible to editing
This has been gaijins standpoint since day one , irregardless of the source of the video.
The brochures are used as secondary sources. Which is something which has always been done, hence the reload on leclerc.
Bad compared to LMUR
Okay great, the Spike is still a decent missile in game?
1 using terms like “russkie” is derogatory and I won’t accept that being used due to you having some form of xenophobia, or racism against them.
2 I’m a british main first and foremost followed closely by USA then china etc.
3 I’ve 9 out of 10 trees in game at 11.7 over the span of four thousand hours, I really do not main a single one but have the most games in USA , just over 1000 between my 10.7 - 12.7 abrams.
Hellfires will literally take altitude id fired at the correct ranges then come down at an angle.
the best lights? no the best light in game is the HSTVL for 12.0 then followed by I believe one of the CVs, the russians have the strongest IFVs which are then followed by the likes of the freccia and such.
No argument there.
No one is arguing their cas is strong, we’re arguing their MBTs are no where near as good as folks make out.
most of them are on the US lol no, the USAs weapons actually have some if not most their functionalities.
More meaning stuff like brimstone, or the italian missiles not working right at all.
Or as brimstone is missing most their proper functions.
WEll away of what they should get, but don’t.
You can get through it mate, i’ve manged with a JH7A you can with the 3 jets listed.
not easily but you can.
it’ll likely get more changes coming.
No wonder mate it was rolling around picking apart 7.3 tanks lol
I am well aware on how a spikes should hit
I’m also well aware of the absolute mess it would make of the game.
You write too much, I can’t respond to all of that + the clip where the t64 autoloader didnt explode was from @pooqich , the dude who claims there is no russian bias, but still was a victim of the said bias.
you cant see behind my gay little bushes but the drivers port is an OHK
268 has an unhidable OFF button near its gun so its not even closely a problem
is4m is the only one that is hard to pen frontally but it has geriatric gun handling so youll get by
Rounds don’t matter that much since you need to aim for same weakspots…
mobility true
optis better? did you read about thermals and what they have?
surivability? seriously?
2s38 ammo count makes this thing a massive buff…
ugh that loft makes them a lot of the time miss oor drop out of energy or not kill a tank which should be blown to pieces… that also makes jagms which you have 16 to not kill as much as 8 lmurs…
I said ~600 pen which means less or more don’t care those 50 mms dont make any difference in game.
THEN WHY THE F… WE HAVE TOP TIER MESSES UP WITH NEWEST RUSSIAN VEHICLES/MISSILES/PLANES WHILE WE GET 80’S USA EQUIPPMENT? FRANCE ETC?
Why the bruchure info about adding something is only implemented in russians while
this is how we call them in my language and is not considered abusive. We have real other slang to call them in which is offensive but not russkie …
so which one is it? we see that it should go from top down in multiple real life videos … they have 2 types of fnf flat and loft… gues which one is more deadly for vehicles but is notin game because of reasons?
but why? why gaijin does not want them to have it? all roads go to rome and same applies here…
So why not give the same RNG element to the russians?
come on dude with some I agree with you it took longer for them to move puma but for gods sake when it comes to russkies there is too much speaking of them favoring it… too many “coincidences” of that …
Showing what exactly? no one is questioning how the damn spikes work IRL lol.
Also most his other points were completely wrong.
3bm60 600+ pen shell, lie
HSTVL ammo worse than the 2S38 ? lie
The T32E1 is better than the IS4M, IS3 and object 268 lol.
The T10M is nearly a full BR above those tanks
can still die exactly the same way a T10A does.
But ahs to fight the likes of Shot kal dalets etc which ahve thermals, darts, LRFs, fully stabilised as well as reload in half the time.
T10M is no where near russian bias xD the thing is nearly the same BR as a chieftain.
Again literally proving you will not read something which proves you wrong. Which is quite funny as that reply I responded to 4 different people, so not every piece of information is for you. You’re not the center of attention.
I’d stop mate he’s completely ignoring what I said again.