Millions of games vs 100 games.
Hmmmmm, who should I trust more.
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1000th of players vs 10000 russia fanbois, who should we trust?
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Statshark is a RU fanboy ?
Now compare that to the win-rates of the other nations at those BRs and you’ll see that Russia has the highest win-rates at those BRs on average and only starts to fall behind in any meaningful percentage (2%+) at 12.3+, where other nations start to get their top tier options. Even then, the highest disparity is still only 3.5% (and the win rate for USSR is still >50%).
11.3 has Russia sitting over 11% above the next highest win-rate. 10.7 and 11.0 give Russia over 4% higher win-rate than the next highest. From 10.3 to 12.7, 9 of the 10 highest win-rate vehicles are all Russian. The only non-Russian tank in the top 10 is the 2A7HU, probably the best actual MBT in the game, and it’s still only in 10th place.
Anyone that plays 10.3+ is well aware of how imbalanced it is. The BMPT variants are extremely strong, especially in the average players hand, and invalidate a lot of tanks in those BR ranges. Hoping up to top tier to have a more reliable tank to fight off BMPTs just pushes you into a pit where you have to deal with LMUR and KH38 spam and now includes the new Pantsir, giving a MASSIVE benefit into swatting munitions down which is a huge advantage in winning battles. Sure the AH64E and Z10 are strong FNF helis as well, but the new Pantsir has no issues dealing with their munitions at worst or the helis directly at best.
I think the Russian Bias phrase gets thrown around a bit too much, but anyone playing at these BRs can easily see that balance is currently pretty heavily skewed towards one nation and the things that nation has gotten make little sense in comparison to what everyone else has. It’s not to say that other nations don’t get benefits at other BRs - tanks like the T58 and Turms3 are extremely strong relative to BR - but those tanks have a little over a quarter of the games played as the BMPT and they do have some more prominent weaknesses in comparison.
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as someone already mentioned: these stats do not take in account that the allegdly “ok” winrate of other nations is a result of beeing paired with russia…
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LMFAO bro said “just aim for the lower part” yes but no, I say BMPT72 can stay a premium but BMPT HAS TO GO PERIOD
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Just played 3 13.0 GRB games against Russia, got dominated under 3min in each of them.
Allies score : 3 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Russians : 6 4 5 5 5 4 4 3 3 2 2 2 1 0 1 0
No point playing this game as NATO. You launch the game, loose 20 games, close the game
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Do you have premium account? cause my issue is broken spaa and bmpt still annoying but overall i win a lot of games at 12.7 russia doesn’t do well at that br however it currently dominate anything at/less than 11.7 to 10.3
Almost all OP vehicles have chronically average stats.
And most high stats vehicles are balanced.
Sure, BMPT should be moved up once again.
My response was simply aimed at that troll’s claims of 80-90%+ WRs across the board.
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Nah, I’m not giving them any more penny. Especially when they’re trying to make Russia look good on purpose without even trying to hide it anymore.
Just played 10 10.7 GRB matches. First match, I got a nuke. Then I lost 9 times in a row (against Russia ofc).
No point playing this game NATO side at +10.3, you’re just gonna loose again and again. They’ve ruined the game
This.
I’m getting sick of this, any game about +10.3 is unbalanced af. Wtf is Gaijin doing about that ?
I’m asking 1 question here : why is Spikes/MMPs top down approach/dmg model broken ? Why is Bradley TOW-2B top down approach/dmg model broken ? Why is AH-64E JAGMs top down approach/dmg model broken ?
Why is bushmaster rate of fire/dmg model bad af ?
Why do tandem ATGMs sometimes get eaten by ERAs instead of getting through ?
No wonder NATO is loosing hard at top tier, every single each of their special technology is either bugged or nerfed-to-the-ground
They gotta do that on purpose
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Well, i ve just uninstsalled the game.
If they think they can own and abuse me as cannon fodder by addiction and do what they want i d just change my pusher. Thers plenty of other games and developers which treat thier comuninty well, Gajin is definatly not one of those and to keep my sanity i might come back in a year or so and see. i doubt they will change anything for long and just keep repeating it like they do since yrs already. After 12 yrs i recognize the pattern…
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I don’t really see what Gaijin would gain from intentionally having Russian bias. Historically, the United States and its allies dominated in both World War I and World War II. Beyond that, they effectively outpaced and contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union through economic pressure and political influence. Even today, Russia struggles to maintain the image of a true superpower and realistically, without nuclear weapons, that status is questionable.
If anything, Russia’s actions have strengthened NATO. The war in Ukraine pushed previously neutral countries like Sweden and Finland into joining, which is the opposite of what you’d expect if Russia were strategically dominant. The situation comes across more like someone lacking self-awareness, pushing others away and then not understanding why they’re isolated.
If Gaijin were actually trying to push a “Russian superiority” narrative through a game, it wouldn’t really prove anything meaningful. And from my experience at top tier (12.7), NATO consistently steamrolls USSR lineups more often than not. Even with strong vehicles like the BMPT or Pantsir and various SU-series aircraft and tanks, the overall performance still feels subpar at best without the right people using it.
If Gaijin truly had a strong Russian bias, they likely would have stayed based in Russia and operated more like other sanctioned developers, such as Battlestate Games (Escape from Tarkov, which got replaced by Arc Raiders in my opinion). Instead, what I see isn’t bias but it’s poor balance management across nations in War Thunder.
At the end of the day, vehicle strength comes down more to how players use them. For example, I still think an aced Abrams is one of the strongest tanks in the game at 12.7 but that’s heavily dependent on player skill, not just stats people grab from statshark and thunderskill.
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Except they aren’t.
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I always thought that the “WT is a propaganda machine” argument is wild.
Games in general are a pretty niche market and WT is just a drop in the bucket.
General population doesn’t really care about any of this.
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Typical 12.7 GRB game against Russia.
Only 3 kills, I am 3rd.
First player 6 kills, then 2 2 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 00000000000000
Russia, on the other side : 6 6 3 3 5 3 2 3 5 1 0 1 1 1 2 0
It’s my 8th loss in a row of the day against 12.7 GRB Russia.
Game’s unbalanced af, if Gaijin doesn’t do anything they’ll end up with RU vs RU team at top tier. It is unbearable to play top tier NATO side, you loose every game
Fun fact, yesterday, I was teamed up with Russia 3 times, and at the very beginning of the game when I first spawned, I said in global chat : “I say it rn : Russia is gonna win, because WT is an unbalanced game giving the absolute bias to RU at top tier”.
Guess who won at the end of those 3 games ? :)
You postet a single screenshot of a single match with 10 kills and 1 of it was a BMPT vs lists of almost hundreds of games that proves russian bias and put the “player skill” into the bucket and everything is magicly balanced? Of course there is the fact NATO players leave after 1 or 2 death while russian keep spawning but the reason is the frustrating engagements where you side shot the weakspots of a T80/90 and nothing happens despite the hitcam shows you hit the warheads or a BMPT is in front of you and while you have to properly aim the bmpt literally just needs to look in your direction and press the mousebutton while spraying a salvo of projectiles in the direction of your turret and cripples you instant, making you from a attacker to a defenseless target. I my self leave VERY often a match after 4 minutes when i died due this. This has nothing to do with playerskills!
If you could provide at least the same amount of collected data as the other player was putting a lot of effort into to prove a point we can discuss skill. But coming now with political statemnets which are biased by itself due western propaganda ignoring the fact that Ukraine allegedly would win within a year with NATO support and yet after 5 yrs they re grabbing old man from the groceries by force is truly some brain gymnastics…
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