I also though this would fix the Dircm/Lmur situation. Cause Iris-T based team defense won’t work vs. Russian teams. Since Ger getting massacred by Mi-28 and LMUR, I also switched back to SACLOS VT-1 missiles from Flarak Rad. Unfortnately these lack range. Mi-28 with LMUR usually spawn at the distant helipot to stay out of range.
Its evident that russian Saclos SAMs are the only ones able to counter DIRCM choppers. Sadly most used DIRCM heli is also a russian one…so Gajin’s decision is hard to grasp. Russia doesn’t need another Pantsir, while there ARE nations who suffer from the Mi-28 spam and can’t do anything.
Its so depressing:
Iris-T: Heli just sitting there while all your SAMs miss. Killing half the team with one LMUR volley (hard to intercept).
VT-1: Lacks range. Mi-28 just sitting there and spam LMURs.
Roland 3: Out of range.
Gepard: Out of range.
Stingers: Same as Iris-T, won’t hit DIRCM heli. Out of range as well.
Sidewinders: Dircm dazzles them as well.
Amraams: Helis are hovering or move just slowly. No doppler radar return (rotor blades would light it up irl, but ingame not modeled). Amraam usually misses as well.
Airborne guns: Work, but difficult to pull off. They usually hover high above the battlefield. Going for them with aircraft guns exposes you to BUK, Pantsir etc… Almost impossible.
So what to do? Quit every high tier match vs allmighty Russia? Cause they always spam Mi-28 vs. Ger teams. Even at match start with rockets. Cause they know there are no viable systems to counter them. Its unplayable.
I didn’t bring that up because we can excuse it is likely in stock form. Another strange thing is why he decided to stop playing such an overpowered vehicle, while he is perfectly OK with spading trash cans like M1 Abrams, maybe he is like my stepsister’s little brother who likes to challenge themselves doing more difficult things bro
No, I said angling in the Mi-28nm will defeat the IRIST thus making them useless. After LDIRCM is fixed, it make IR missiles much more effective against them.
true but it will also take significantly longer making them easier to intercept or dodge.
Majority of maps won’t even allow you to shoot from that distance unless you go high up which will put you at risk against radar missiles.
If you don’t understand what makes the pantsir strong in the first place, then you should say that.
Excellent search radar and missiles makes it where by the time you pop up, there will be a missile coming towards you and you won’t have time to acquire and fire a target. This is assuming you are behind a physical cover, if you are behind trees, good luck with that. But hey, I don’t except you to know that since you don’t play helis from other nations.
Playing other nations will open up your eyes a lot of blind spots
Break down the stats for me, of the total kills, how much portion does planes take, how much does drones take and how much does helicopters take. And from the helicopters, how many were LDIRCM?
If Pantsir was so good at deleting both CAS and munitions basically “on sight”, 13.0 helicopters wouldn’t have such high stats and Pantsir’s own stats would be much better.
That seems to be an issue on your end, not an issue for the average player.
Here are the global stats as of january 2026, and if you think Russian MBT’s will have the easiest time/highest stats, you’re in for quite the surprise:
Vehicle — winrate — K/D — K/M
Merk.Mk4M — 51.8% — 1.65 — 1.22
Leo2A7HU — 55.1% — 1.62 — 1.42
Strv122B+ — 48.2% — 1.51 — 1.35
Type10 — 52.7% — 1.50 — 1.36
M1A2T — 54.3% — 1.49 — 1.37
Leo 2A7V — 44.3% — 1.42 — 1.31
Leclerc — 51.9% — 1.40 — 1.27
Chall.2E — 51.7% — 1.35 — 1.22
M1A2SEP — 49.9% — 1.34 — 1.18
T-80BVM — 50.2% — 1.33 — 1.23
M1A2 v2 — 50.7% — 1.32 — 1.20
T-90M — 48.4% — 1.22 — 1.09
And I’m not one to bring these stats up as if they tell the whole story, but if your argument is that average player stats matters more, than these are about as representative as you could ever get.
Again, break down the stats for me. Give me list of the targets a 13.0 heli has destroyed and by how many times. I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong once you do so.
You’re relying on statistics that don’t give breakdown and you’re connecting to what is at best, guesses to fact.
If you can’t distinguish between player statistics and a vehicle’s performance, then you shouldn’t be debating about it