We’re not claiming this guy. Ru mains can have him.
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I thought one would do better than that in his amazing T-tank, even while stock due to magic armor.
He probably noticed the lack of all the things he took for granted in his Bebrams.
That guy is one of the cringiest posters on here.
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No, I said angling in the Mi-28nm will defeat the IRIST thus making them useless. After LDIRCM is fixed, it make IR missiles much more effective against them.
true but it will also take significantly longer making them easier to intercept or dodge.
Majority of maps won’t even allow you to shoot from that distance unless you go high up which will put you at risk against radar missiles.
If you don’t understand what makes the pantsir strong in the first place, then you should say that.
Excellent search radar and missiles makes it where by the time you pop up, there will be a missile coming towards you and you won’t have time to acquire and fire a target. This is assuming you are behind a physical cover, if you are behind trees, good luck with that. But hey, I don’t except you to know that since you don’t play helis from other nations.
Playing other nations will open up your eyes a lot of blind spots
It’s funny how hard global stats disprove this claim.
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And i asked how fixing LDIRCM will help everyone if everyone have LDIRCM helis and only Germany has IRIS-T.
I literally said that have killed several Pantsirs in AH-64A without any problem but too bad you illitirate.
Break down the stats for me, of the total kills, how much portion does planes take, how much does drones take and how much does helicopters take. And from the helicopters, how many were LDIRCM?
Oh wait, you can’t…
If Pantsir was so good at deleting both CAS and munitions basically “on sight”, 13.0 helicopters wouldn’t have such high stats and Pantsir’s own stats would be much better.
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That seems to be an issue on your end, not an issue for the average player.
Here are the global stats as of january 2026, and if you think Russian MBT’s will have the easiest time/highest stats, you’re in for quite the surprise:
Vehicle — winrate — K/D — K/M
- Merk.Mk4M — 51.8% — 1.65 — 1.22
- Leo2A7HU — 55.1% — 1.62 — 1.42
- Strv122B+ — 48.2% — 1.51 — 1.35
- Type10 — 52.7% — 1.50 — 1.36
- M1A2T — 54.3% — 1.49 — 1.37
- Leo 2A7V — 44.3% — 1.42 — 1.31
- Leclerc — 51.9% — 1.40 — 1.27
- Chall.2E — 51.7% — 1.35 — 1.22
- M1A2SEP — 49.9% — 1.34 — 1.18
- T-80BVM — 50.2% — 1.33 — 1.23
- M1A2 v2 — 50.7% — 1.32 — 1.20
- T-90M — 48.4% — 1.22 — 1.09
And I’m not one to bring these stats up as if they tell the whole story, but if your argument is that average player stats matters more, than these are about as representative as you could ever get.
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Again, break down the stats for me. Give me list of the targets a 13.0 heli has destroyed and by how many times. I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong once you do so.
You’re relying on statistics that don’t give breakdown and you’re connecting to what is at best, guesses to fact.
If you can’t distinguish between player statistics and a vehicle’s performance, then you shouldn’t be debating about it
You’re using your own experiences as facts, which definitely is far from optimal.
If Pantsir was such a menace, global stats would definitely show that it’s performing much better than average AA.
Do you think all those 64Es reached those stats by getting deleted by Pantsir before they could even fire a missile off ?
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Here’s an idea… instead of blaming the Pantsir’s chronic average nature… how about you blame people for 1: Spawning CAS in the first place instead of more tanks. 2: People using CAS so incorrectly that they die to Pantsir.
The US since he hasn’t gotten the ADATS, CLAWS, or the 64E
I have them and will say US Top Tier is easily among the best in the game, just lagging behind in fixed-wing CAS.
Yea guys, RU mains out there you can pretty much wrap up your game.
You’re not evading the accusations with the pantsirgate 2.0.
They’ve done it and they’ve done it twice, using the same platform.
Assymetric balance my sporty and very symmetric ass.
If we take an entire lineup into account, Russia is stronger in top tier due to their CAS. Even simulator stats confirm that. Russia has averaged 70% winrate there since LMUR were added months ago, going up from a balanced ~50% winrate.
The Abrams is by far not the best, being outdone by the Leopards 2A7 and Merkava.
The Adats and Claws/NASAM are both mid asf compared to what you can find in other nations.
Their IFV are nonexistent, with the Stryker MGS being their good sniper light tank and the HSTVL being situational.
The AH-64E can be found in almost every nation now and is outdone by the Mi-28NM LMURs
And as you said, US air is straight up the worst of all nations in ground RB.
US ground top line-up has no redeeming, unique, quality in big 2026.
funniest thing the M1 KVT still doesn’t got it’s ERA, only a useless decoration
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ehh abrams got 5 sec reload at Ace and less than 6 at experts, while having one of the best shells with ERA on sides that could sometimes tank Kh missiles
New 12.7 Pantsir :
- New 95Ya6M missiles ;
- 96 missiles with ammo crates ;
- 70km radar with no blindspot ;
- Mach 5 missile ;
- 75G max overload ;
- 40km launch range ;
- anti-drone mini missiles ;
- 6 main missiles + 24 mini missiles (for drones and atgms/bombs) ;
- 30mm guns ;
- of course, no NATO equivalent.
“Russian bias doesn’t exist”
EDIT : Pantsir-S1 + BUK weren’t enough I suppose
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