Prove it that the seeker was made for a other missile other than the kh38.
Sure that one problem that can be dealt with.
Im sure that it was meant to be for the 38MT but that doesnt mean that the seeker was actually made and tested.
How exactly?
1 Like
Except they do. The problem is not the actual KE value, its the destabilization modifier. 80mm side + 20mm armored autoloader gives you about a 70mm flat KE value for long-rod darts.
It was tested and made. I literally showed you the picture at the expo.
Also someone in the forum literally found the video of the thermal kh38 seeker and posted.
But I lost it
In all fairness the seeker and missile exist, they just haven’t been bought together, and afaik they are literally designed to be compatible. So how about instead of worrying about its realism, we focus on its balance aspects? I mean… nowadays its not nearly as oppressive as it was on Su-34’s release, but its still undoubtedly the best anti-tank guided AGM. If anything, KH-31PD is more of an issue due to its immense speed.
One thing to note is that KH-38MT slingers can only kill 4-6 tanks on an uncontested run depending on how many they carry. NATO CAS trades AGM speed for munition count, leading to higher potential kills = more match impact. The problem is really just SM-SV, if it was never added, both sides would be arguably equal on the AA/CAS ground.
However^, Russia is kept ahead in this area due to them lacking truly competitive tanks.
4 Likes
4 Likes
BCS su35 is next door.
Remove it will only give 2 months time before we could get it back in a better plane.
I know that they do based on the angle but the KE protection doesnt change depending on where on the plate the shot hits, does it?
Yes thats an expo picture. There is no proof that it was actually tested tho.
Missile sure, seeker is still questionable.
Those 2 things are intertwined. You can only properly balance a game like war thunder if everyone follows the same rules. The 38MT just didnt get added with the same care and standards that the other weapons had to fulfill. And selective realism is selective realism no matter how balanced or broken it turns out to be in the end. It creates massive problems either way.
And im absolutely fine with the SU35 getting whatever equipment it can carry but it doesnt excuse all the stuff i mentioned so far.
So basically the same situation as the EFT.
1 Like
Ok let me break it down for you.
Spice → Exists undoubtedly as a functional weapon system and we know its capabilities.
Eurofighter → Has manufacturer information that its compatible with Spice.
→ Eurofighter gets Spice in game
Kh38MT → no proof that it was ever tested as a functional weapon
Su30SM → no Info that its actually compatible with the KH38MT
→ Su30SM gets KH38MT in game ?
Do you see that its very much not the same situation?
The weapon is a functional.
Seeker exist and was tested. Not fired.
It’s not hard to read su30mk on the brochure.
Su30mk → MKI → SM
1 Like
If you understand the purpose of br, then you probably also understand if something is ass they will be moved down, if something continue to be ass and further made even more ass then what happen to it? it got moved again, like the t-72b3 doesn’t see 12.7s anymore because its always ass that it eventually moved down so its no longer a feeder. Like should we keep this trash at 11.7 so it can continue to feed NATO mains who played since 1972 when bruce lee still alive and struggling to maintain 1kd after playing the game for 50 years?
1 Like
If it was never assembled and tested as the actual in game weapon then id very much say that its not.
Was it? Because about 8000 posts in the respective thread have failed to show that apparently.
That is not how technical compatibility works in this game.
Ok your point is what exactly? How does any of that have relevance for russian equipment getting fake buffs so it can be competitive at top tier?
Maybe because your in the wrong thread. Check the right one. Take your time.
Doesn’t need to be for it to be accepted.
Then explain why su30sm shouldn’t have it.
Clearly you know better than me
no
even in the dedicated thread the seeker shown at an expo was never shown to be functional
I checked the right one. Turns out that theres nothing. And considering that none of you guys ever seem to be capable to point out a source im just gonna assume that there is none.
Weirdly enough every single other weapon in the game needs to tho.
Because there is no info or source mentioning that it can have it? And also no source that all the Flanker types always share all technical compatibilities?
Such as ?
As matter of fact yes they do
And before you start yap.
I meant su30mk family.
Every other weapon? Like idk what to tell you but every other weapon we have in game and every suggestion needs proof of testing and proof that it can be used on the vehicle in question.
According to?