All tanks are weaker and stronger in War Thunder than IRL.
Mobility and aiming is stronger in-game than IRL.
Surviving is stronger IRL than in-game.
And this is a universal rule for all tanks in-game.
The Abrams is the 2nd best tank series in War Thunder, only beaten by the Leopard 2A5+ series.
Ok well I do have a new video back in my original post so check it out, that whole match proved me right about Russian bias
ok respectfully, im done arguing with you about the Abrams because its not going anywhere, however, I do have a video in my original post stating why I even made this thread that I would like you to watch.
It disproves Russian bias.
All matches will always disprove nation bias, because matches involve player skill, a factor you cannot remove from a match score.
Cross analysis is king in determining if vehicles are OP or not.
Cross analysis is how we proved BMPT was OP, and I’m talking proof, not conjecture.
did you even watch it -_-. So you’re saying that video is not proving anything?
Yes, and the points in my post are still valid.
I get you want to explain team skill disparity to be anything other than that, but it’s not going to.
I have to cope with bad teams just as much if not more than you.
I played Soviets 10.7 relatively recently, and one team was good enough to win out of 6 or 7 matches.
Personal match experience will never be proof of anything other than teams doing well or not around you.
Except when youre going up a slight incline
Probably? Kinda hard to measure when FCS and stuff is not modeled and its a video game
russian tanks yeah, most other MBTs no.
Okay but this was 11.7, and technically a down tier for me. BMPTs are truly OP tanks.
To me it is, because it happens alot more, and personal matches is what makes people play the game.
I see if its skill issue but the point of the video is to show that I do not have a big skill issue in that match
BMPTs were OP tanks.
Now they are 11.3, in-line with being a M4 Jumbo. So any proof of them being OP at 11.3 is not yet present. Cross analysis indicates no.
2.0 BR above the lowest BR vehicle of equivalent armament.
Dude, my bad experiences in the RB modes are the secondary reason I’m back in air simulator, and considering playing arcade primarily again.
I play all 10 tech trees, and had bad ground RB and air RB experiences with all of them universally.
Would you mind explaining your reasoning for that statement? Because the BMPTs got moved up on 13th January which means that half the month is still viable data and the stats for 11.3 do not look balanced
You cannot sort by half-months on any website, so your claim is known as conjecture.
On top of that, many OP vehicles have worse stats than perfectly balanced vehicles.
M1A1 vs Leclerc for example.
Most OP vehicles in War Thunder have average win rates as well, which is why balancing purely off player performance isn’t something Gaijin does nor should do.
BMPT’s weapons are 2.0 BR below it, its armor is what makes it great.
M4 Jumbo’s weapons are 2.0 BR below it, its armor is what makes it great.
You dont have to if you compare the 11.3 winrates, the performance of the BMPT and the rest of 11.3.
Well then its good that the BMPT has insanely good stats.
True but again both BMPTs have very good winrates, good performance and are spammed like hell so your argument makes 0 sense here.
Bias towards what they get, the vehicles have no bias, but they also don’t have their same NATO modern counterparts (and definitely not accurately modeled with what we do have)
SPAA’s are no big deal, and are honestly at this point a skill issue however. Also Russian tanks don’t use a turret basked but they have power and hydraulic lines all throughout the hull that a normal lower hull/driver shot should instantly disable not only driver controls, but all power and hydraulic.
BMPT/BMPT-72 need to be 13.0, ASAP, no questions asked.
You mean these stats: Where we see a clear drop despite skilled players still playing the BMPT in January. And the reason I use arcade stats is it reduces the player skill gap [doesn’t eliminate it], using RB or sim will just be almost exclusively team skill disparity impacting win rates.
Where its still the highest winrate in that BR field?
Oh come on now, we all know that youre using arcade, because it illustrates your point better. There is no reason why the by far most played vehicles at 11.3 would have a player skill advantage.
khm khm kh38 lmur buk pantsir cries that arcade eliminates khm khm
Are you having a stroke or is that word salad supposed to mean something?
Because KH38s and LMURs have very little impact on 11.3 stats for quite obvious reasons in any mode.
Its not like 11.7 Su-25 has little impact on 11.3 stats. But it was supposed to be a joke
Im sure it does but the SU25 would have to have impeccable timing to really influence the 11.3 stats after the BMPT got there.
