Well, your posts can keep shilling for Soviet tanks all you want, but that won’t change reality.
M1A2 is superior, and you’ll never have evidence to prove otherwise.
Also, saying it’s worse in-game is saying it’s worse IRL as well.
Da… absolutely comrade. Do you feel it comrade? The patriotic radiation is spreading globally.
Youre joking lol. No game can 100% simulate real life. WT is not even close to that.
War Thunder does not 100% simulate real life, and?
War Thunder doesn’t need to be the hypothetical perfect simulator, because its dozens of competitors are worse than it.
M1A2 is vastly more mobile, has good armor, fires the best MBT round in the game from the 2nd best gun in the game, etc.
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Ok great we agree that WT is not infact the most realistic game. Therefore your statement you said
did not make sense. I agree with you that the Abrams is the best tank-- but only in real life.
AlvisWisla I never hated the abrams, youre just making stuff up. Most people and youtubers agree that the abrams is much weaker in game than irl. I also updated my reply to you aswell
It’s weaker in game than IRL sure, but so are tanks like the 2A7V.
Yet even in it’s current weaker state it is already one of the better top tier tanks and easily beats any and all of the 11.0+ T-series.
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Pretty sure people over estimate how good the abrams is while also under estimating what a person can do with a t series. At least when it come to random battles.
Like for instance i was able to get a 10 kill game with the t80B in an uptier on eastern europe. got shot multiple times while going from ditch to ditch but was able to survive thanks to the Armour.
Now, if i had the base abrams, i could probably do the same, But the minute anyone shoots you anywhere but the cheeks, the turret basket screws you over and thats the end of it.
Now i’ve also had a 10 +kill game with the abrams on advance to the rhine by camping and holding 2 lanes. Thanks to the turret traverse and slightly faster reload. It was something a t series could probably never keep up with.
So while T-series are worse than the abrams, its only just a little. Abrams get more leeway in more situations, T series are better in more specific situations.
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I disagree, the Abrams gets underestimated more than anything.
You are right for a large part. The Abrams has a higher skill floor than the T-80 at most BRs. However what a lot of people don’t get or don’t want to believe is that the skill ceiling of the Abrams is also so much higher.
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All tanks are weaker and stronger in War Thunder than IRL.
Mobility and aiming is stronger in-game than IRL.
Surviving is stronger IRL than in-game.
And this is a universal rule for all tanks in-game.
The Abrams is the 2nd best tank series in War Thunder, only beaten by the Leopard 2A5+ series.
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Ok well I do have a new video back in my original post so check it out, that whole match proved me right about Russian bias
ok respectfully, im done arguing with you about the Abrams because its not going anywhere, however, I do have a video in my original post stating why I even made this thread that I would like you to watch.
It disproves Russian bias.
All matches will always disprove nation bias, because matches involve player skill, a factor you cannot remove from a match score.
Cross analysis is king in determining if vehicles are OP or not.
Cross analysis is how we proved BMPT was OP, and I’m talking proof, not conjecture.
did you even watch it -_-. So you’re saying that video is not proving anything?
Yes, and the points in my post are still valid.
I get you want to explain team skill disparity to be anything other than that, but it’s not going to.
I have to cope with bad teams just as much if not more than you.
I played Soviets 10.7 relatively recently, and one team was good enough to win out of 6 or 7 matches.
Personal match experience will never be proof of anything other than teams doing well or not around you.
Except when youre going up a slight incline
Probably? Kinda hard to measure when FCS and stuff is not modeled and its a video game
russian tanks yeah, most other MBTs no.
Okay but this was 11.7, and technically a down tier for me. BMPTs are truly OP tanks.
To me it is, because it happens alot more, and personal matches is what makes people play the game.
I see if its skill issue but the point of the video is to show that I do not have a big skill issue in that match
BMPTs were OP tanks.
Now they are 11.3, in-line with being a M4 Jumbo. So any proof of them being OP at 11.3 is not yet present. Cross analysis indicates no.
2.0 BR above the lowest BR vehicle of equivalent armament.
Dude, my bad experiences in the RB modes are the secondary reason I’m back in air simulator, and considering playing arcade primarily again.
I play all 10 tech trees, and had bad ground RB and air RB experiences with all of them universally.
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Would you mind explaining your reasoning for that statement? Because the BMPTs got moved up on 13th January which means that half the month is still viable data and the stats for 11.3 do not look balanced
You cannot sort by half-months on any website, so your claim is known as conjecture.
On top of that, many OP vehicles have worse stats than perfectly balanced vehicles.
M1A1 vs Leclerc for example.
Most OP vehicles in War Thunder have average win rates as well, which is why balancing purely off player performance isn’t something Gaijin does nor should do.
BMPT’s weapons are 2.0 BR below it, its armor is what makes it great.
M4 Jumbo’s weapons are 2.0 BR below it, its armor is what makes it great.
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