Is that supposed to make it less of an issue?
The IR X-38 isn’t real and the Ho-Ri isn’t real, that’s the point
Is that supposed to make it less of an issue?
The IR X-38 isn’t real and the Ho-Ri isn’t real, that’s the point
Ho-Ri isn’t guilty of ruining an entire BR bracket though… nor have I ever seen people actually and actively avoiding playing the tier where it is present solely to avoid it.
The Kh-3Fake? Yeah…
It’s such a braindead vehicle to play lol, and you can’t prevent it in the same way you can prevent aircraft carrying X-38MTs from spawning by just killing the tanks of the players that can do so early, I suggest you try the tank if you haven’t yet, I think it really does have the ability to ruin a good amount of matches for others
??? My point is that there literally is no source stating 8 LMURs on the MI28NM ever. There are only sources for 4.
Yes exactly. It needed specific proof that you could mount PARS on the outer wing Pylon. If the UHT and other Helis got the same treatment as the MI28NM they all could have their inner wing launchers just copy and pasted on the outer ones.
Plates that arent there on the in game Xray which is the important part.
Yes, because the rules changed which is why the Tiger II 105, Panther II and Coelian got removed from research which was before the KH38MT got added. And the HO RI will be removed as soon as Gaijin deems it ok just like the RY2Ys. There are actual statements from Gaijin regarding these fakes but not for the KH38MT.
I’m not really convinced this will happen any time soon if it’s been 9 years, but I admire the optimism
I mean it took about 10 years for the R2Y2s to go so its not out of the ordinary but with these fakes at least we had information, transparency and explanation. We got none of that for the 38MT.
Rules get bent or created just to fill the gaps with fakes.
They did fill the gaps with fakes. They dont anymore since we got subtrees and the standards are much higher nowadays especially for modern equipment. The 38MT is an absolute exception among all weapons from the same BR and timeframe.
You remember F-16AJ, Swedish T-80U and Mi-28 ?
Yes all pre subtree additions like i said. Also not really fake since trialed seems to be a very weird thing when it comes to Gaijin.
Swedish T-80U does not exist and thus is fake and will remain fake until you show us some procurement documents.
By “trialed” you mean a nonsense rule introduced by Gaijin to justify adding fakes ?
Yes pretty much. I also think its stupid and im glad that they stopped doing it and instead pivoted to subtrees. But again there is explanation and transparency unlike the MT.
But the swedish T-80U was addet with the Finnish subtree, not before that…
Which changes absolutely nothing for gameplay itself.
You mean THIS T-80U?

Or the imaginary tank they used for terrain trials? Certainly more historic evidence of it existing and in use than other things we could mention. However I forget - it’s only dodgy marketing brochures you accept as ‘documentary evidence’.
Report from terrain trials with T-80U – Swedish tank archives
Yeah - totally see how it’s just like the KH-3Fake…
(Said no one ever).
True that but the initial point still stands. They stopped adding trialed and fake stuff after the respective tech trees got their subtree. And still trialed stuff is not the same as blatant fake stuff like the R2Y2s.
If you solely look on what affects gameplay then none of these additions matter, because they didnt break the game in the way the 38MT did. All they did was fill gaps, the 38MT opened up completely new capabilites not seen before (and after in certain aspects). And pure gameplay impact isnt the only thing that matters in a game like war thunder.
T-80U does exist, but Swedish one doesn’t.
I can also film myself test driving a car, does that mean I own it ?
It is, as both shouldn’t be there in the first place.
Adding vehicles to a country doesn’t matter.
Most important thing by far.
I agree that they shouldnt but they arent the same as per Gaijin since theyre the ones making the difference between the 2 here not me.
It matters but positively only. None of the other additions was unbalanced at it only made the game fairer.
Ok then where is my fake LDIRCM for the Tiger UHT and Ah129D? If gameplay is the by far most important thing then giving everyone similar capabilities should be priority one for balanced gameplay dont you think? Well turns out gameplay isnt the only thing that matters, because if it did wed all play the same vehicles with different skins for a perfectly balanced gameplay.
vs 4 skippers*. Agm65d sits on slow platform and struggle with even reaching battlefield sometimes.