Lets compare the KA-52M and the AH-64E then?
Sure, do you know how much a new KA-52M is? I dont, because so far no one ordered one.
hahahahaha
Yes. It’s faced same MANPADS.
No, because it doesn’t have to be used so stupidly.
Yes. You have many reports of sightings of specific KA-52s and their visits to service or field service. I don’t remember the numbers, but the number of hours was higher with the Apache. These numbers were compared to previous wars such as Iraq/Afghanistan, and with data from the IDF.
XDDD
And has Russia faced up to it?
No, but it’s funny how they use it :)
15million (USD)
No, no, it hasn’t. Show me where and when.
Thats subjective isnt it?
You didn’t answer my question. Your question doesn’t make sense either.
How who uses what?
Based on what? What the russian MOD told some journalists? Yeah i dont care about what price tag a state owned defence company puts on its helicopter for said states army. Call me when you find an export price.
oh, we’re comparing EXPORT prices? Thats a different story isn’t it bro 🫤
no those are well known facts. You are relying on layman show on video bursting about “bolts” which are engine bushings for B52 and C17… if you want some context just say…
Yeah because comparing the totally not skewed prices of a state owned company toward the state its owned by to the prices of a private company would be kinda stupid, wouldnt it? So export prices are the only ones that are somewhat comparable
Sweden and China have tanks with Kontakt 5, so that doesn’t really say anything.
And Kontakt 1 is the 2nd worst ERA in the game.
A good reason to play other tech trees. Instant queue times against people that think they’re using vehicles they incorrectly think are godlike cause they bought into propaganda.
In-fact, I might today.
Though I don’t have many 11.7 lineups to spade anymore.
Yeah and thats the overarching point isnt it
I guess we gotta wait then
Not really. You can say its 15 million but due to the nature of the russian MIC its impossible to say if thats the actual cost of the heli or if thats just a price they say and theyre selling at a loss and pulling the money from somewhere else. On the other hand if you take the 50 mill or whatever a new 64E is you know that thats the cost of building the heli plus profit.
Because that’s a stupid question. And even stupider is the suggestion that Russia met an army of its own. Although the second is kind of funny.
A bit. But if you build “equipment” for specific tasks and then use it completely differently and lose it, what do you call that?
Iraq.
Yo ask me ? xD
Oh you mean copy paste T-80U’s that has slight differences and has no tie with those countries actually?
Okay there bud, China’s T-80UD is not copy-paste.
Sweden’s copy-paste T-80U however still doesn’t change the facts.
And Abrams SEP series even has over-lapping plates to cause the same bounces that overlapping plates on T-series tanks can cause.
lol it’s Pakistani T80UD with thermal modification which is basically copy paste.
Ah yes just because you had skill issue=Abrams ERA is equal/better than RELIKT/K5.
Get yourself together and stop claiming absurd things.
Perfect demonstrator of lacking comprehending skills.
No more further questions.
So its a stupid question to ask if the USA has faced
a) A near peer in the last 30 years
or
b) A country backed up by many others, suppling it with their own modern weapons?
Using them aggressively early on was a mistake, no denying that, but that doesn’t asnwer my question.
These are the MANPADS the Apache faced in Iraq, from what I could find online
1.) the Strela 9K32 (9K32 Strela-2 - Wikipedia), a 1970’s weapon. (mainly what they faced)
2.) The 9K34 Strela 3 (9K32 Strela-2 - Wikipedia), a late 1970s weapon
3.) the 9K38 Igla, (9K38 Igla - Wikipedia) a 1980’s weapon.
4) The Misagh-1 (Misagh-1 - Wikipedia), a 90’s Iranian weapon.
5) the HN-5 (HN-5 - Wikipedia), a 70s weapon.
Now, the KA52 has faced;
- the FIM-92 Stinger (FIM-92 Stinger - Wikipedia), an 80’s weapon
- the Piorun (Piorun (missile) - Wikipedia), a 2019 weapon
3.) the starstreak (Starstreak - Wikipedia), a late 90s weapon - The Mistral (Mistral (missile) - Wikipedia), a 90’s weapon
- The Igla and Strela’s as mentioned previously.
- The RBS-70 (RBS 70 - Wikipedia), a 70’s design
- The Martlet (Martlet (missile) - Wikipedia) a 2010’s weapon.
Im seeing a disparity here…
Yes, I am asking you.
@Panther2995
Your post brought up American ERA out of nowhere…
All I mentioned was metal containers that aren’t ERA…
Though I do appreciate your post admitting it’s a skill issue to fail penning the side armor of MBTs with ERA when using semi-competent guns.
On another note, have me front-penning the UFP of a T-series tank:
