Wanna clarify?
Sure. What facts ? :)
Very good example. So where do we start? How many KA-52s have been shot down using MANPADS ? After all, the KA-52 simply has the same, cheaper-made defense system as the Apache … :)))
I would also ask why they have such a short service life, but I guess there is no point… (:
Where do i even begin to debunk this lmao.
- Has the apache faced near peer threats with modern MANPADS?
- Has it seen as much use as the KA-52 has of late? Especially when they were used agressively earlier on in the war.
- Has it been used consistently for an extended period of time?
- Has the US faced ANY near peer foe in the last 30 years? Has it faced a foe backed by many countries supplying it with its own weaponries?
Whats next? You’re gonna say ‘muh T90M sucks bc they got more destroyed on the battlefield than Abrams/Leo’?
Maybe you wanna clarify first. Which versions are you even comparing? Because if youre comparing an upgraded KA52 to a newly built 64E price wise then maybe the comparison sucks
Im not comparing specific models, just generally, because i dont have all that time unfortunately 😭
you clearly didnt :D
since that big shouty representative just cherry picked something from something and didn’t provide any evidence whatsoever , I am about to work with what I know and how things works in aviation (military) and that’s Contract Averaging: In some massive spare parts contracts (e.g., $10 million for 100 different types of parts), the total cost is sometimes divided by the number of line items for accounting simplicity, making a bag of $100 bushings appear as a $90,000 line item.
Which is complete nonsense, because if you want to claim “similar performance” you should very much specify which version youre talking about since there are quite the differences. Comparing a first gen Apache from the mid 80s to a 52 from the late 90s wouldnt make any sense
So we’re just relying on your opinion?
Lets compare the KA-52M and the AH-64E then?
Sure, do you know how much a new KA-52M is? I dont, because so far no one ordered one.
hahahahaha
Yes. It’s faced same MANPADS.
No, because it doesn’t have to be used so stupidly.
Yes. You have many reports of sightings of specific KA-52s and their visits to service or field service. I don’t remember the numbers, but the number of hours was higher with the Apache. These numbers were compared to previous wars such as Iraq/Afghanistan, and with data from the IDF.
XDDD
And has Russia faced up to it?
No, but it’s funny how they use it :)
15million (USD)
No, no, it hasn’t. Show me where and when.
Thats subjective isnt it?
You didn’t answer my question. Your question doesn’t make sense either.
How who uses what?
Based on what? What the russian MOD told some journalists? Yeah i dont care about what price tag a state owned defence company puts on its helicopter for said states army. Call me when you find an export price.
oh, we’re comparing EXPORT prices? Thats a different story isn’t it bro 🫤
no those are well known facts. You are relying on layman show on video bursting about “bolts” which are engine bushings for B52 and C17… if you want some context just say…
Yeah because comparing the totally not skewed prices of a state owned company toward the state its owned by to the prices of a private company would be kinda stupid, wouldnt it? So export prices are the only ones that are somewhat comparable
Sweden and China have tanks with Kontakt 5, so that doesn’t really say anything.
And Kontakt 1 is the 2nd worst ERA in the game.
A good reason to play other tech trees. Instant queue times against people that think they’re using vehicles they incorrectly think are godlike cause they bought into propaganda.
In-fact, I might today.
Though I don’t have many 11.7 lineups to spade anymore.
Yeah and thats the overarching point isnt it
I guess we gotta wait then
Not really. You can say its 15 million but due to the nature of the russian MIC its impossible to say if thats the actual cost of the heli or if thats just a price they say and theyre selling at a loss and pulling the money from somewhere else. On the other hand if you take the 50 mill or whatever a new 64E is you know that thats the cost of building the heli plus profit.